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To: LibertyRocks
This virus was man-made. No doubt about it, and the process required pigs to be used to mix the viruses together.

OK, here we go. A brief technical explanation of the links between human influenza, avial influenza, and pigs:

The species which different types of influenza viruses are able to infect are determined by different forms of sialic acid present on the virus glycoproteins. In particular, this property depends predominately (but not exclusively) on the amino acid at position 226 of the haemagglutinin protein.

This provides a considerable species barrier between birds and humans which is not easily overcome. However, pigs provide a "mixing pot" - able to be infected by both types of virus & thus allowing the passage of avian viruses to humans.

How did avian flu infect humans?

In May 1997, a three year-old boy died of complications of influenza in the intensive care unit of a Hong Kong hospital. This case was the first isolation of an influenza A subtype H5N1 in a human. Subtype H5 influenza viruses can cause lethal avian influenza, a disease that can decimate flocks of domestic poultry.

Fortunately, this outbreak eventually fizzled out, but not before there had been 18 confirmed human cases and 6 deaths. Why did the outbreak go away? The H5 haemagglutinin has an HA226gln sequence - i.e. was an avian virus poorly adapted to humans. There is clear evidence that between its emergence in 1997 and 2004, H5N1 isolates have become significantly more pathogenic for mammals

There is a cyclical pattern to pandemics that appears to be from 59 to 68 years. Take a look at this historical chart:


178 posted on 04/28/2009 4:08:46 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: Polarik

Thank you Polarik! I just read something about how pigs can serve as an “incubator”, and so that combined with your post is making a LOT of sense. My ‘intuition’ has told me this was not a ‘natural’ virus, and somewhere along the way there was a scientist and a “lab” involved - whether on purpose, or accidental.

I actually DO understand what you’ve written here, even if I’m not at the point of understanding it enough to explain it to someone else at that level! [Working on that! LOL I really wish I had listened to my Mom (may she RIP - 12 yrs. today), and that I had gone into medicine! Gives my brain a good work-out but remains fascinating at the same time for me! :)]

One question for you — in your research/reading are you leaning towards the “terrorist bio-weapon” theory, or a “lab accident/mistake” theory? Don’t worry about replying if it’s going to take you away from your research on this or anything! LOL I’m just curious.


180 posted on 04/28/2009 4:22:34 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Polarik

wow ... nice information and thanks. Got any more tech information on this one like maybe why in particular is this virus causing what looks like cytokine storms in healthy humans? Has that feature been mapped to a genetic sequence?


182 posted on 04/28/2009 4:32:20 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: Polarik; Dr. Eckleburg

The Hong Kong flu of 1968 was avian. I spent a week on a couch in college with it, so I know it well. No health insurance, did not go to doctor. hope I have antibodies.


183 posted on 04/28/2009 4:35:26 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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