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1 posted on 04/27/2009 1:23:47 PM PDT by Scanian
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“Enhanced interrogation” has been used for centuries. While it hasn’t been used by us as punishment, it has been used for collecting battlefield intelligence.


2 posted on 04/27/2009 1:36:47 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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“And of the thousands of unlawful combatants captured by the U.S., fewer than 100 were detained and questioned in the CIA program, according to Michael Hayden, President Bush’s last CIA director, and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey –and of those, fewer than one-third were subjected to any of the techniques discussed in the memos on enhanced interrogation.”

Anyone listening to the MSM, the Dems, and rabidly leftist web sites would have the impression that tens of thousands of “innocent” people were “tortured”.

3 posted on 04/27/2009 1:37:06 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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We don’t torture people.

Loud music and water in your face is not torture. You’ll walk away whole. You’ll be fine in time for dinner.

Compare the careful, measured, carefully calibrated interrogation these guys received after killing several thousand Americans versus the treatment suspects regularly get in any police basement in the world outside the United States. There is no comparison.

The question has be purposely misstated. No torture was involved. No one was maimed. No one was beaten. No telephone books were involved. No blackjacks. No one suffered so much as a black eye.

Now compare this to the treatment of Americans taken prisoner in similar fashion. How are they treated? They are regularly and publicly tortured to death. Anyone who wants to make an issue of torture has all the opportunity to do so if they want to, because every American taken prisoner gets tortured to death. Mostly they don’t even print it in the papers because they don’t want to upset anyone, and they don’t want to prejudice the readership against the enemy.


5 posted on 04/27/2009 1:44:24 PM PDT by marron
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Recently involved in a discussion concerning ‘moral isolation’ as a tactic used against the USA by AQ in the global war on terror.
Once we conceed that the harsh interogations used against terrorist (or scum of the earth) is ‘torture’, we’ve lost the argument and no amount of self flagellation will return it.
(Notice OBL brought up the US use of Atomic weapons. Seems they understand ‘warfare’ better than we think they do.)


6 posted on 04/27/2009 1:45:14 PM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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I don’t even need the article, just the headline.

It would be AMORAL and INHUMANE NOT to use enhanced interrogation techniques. The human lives saved by this are immeasurable and we have proof they work.


7 posted on 04/27/2009 1:51:25 PM PDT by Vendome
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BFL


8 posted on 04/27/2009 1:52:45 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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Ask Daniel Pearl for his opiunion..

Ph, Wait- the Religion of Peace BEHEADED him!!!!!


9 posted on 04/27/2009 2:02:15 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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There is something very odd about a society that has no qualms at all about killing its enemies, but recoils in horror from the very thought of hurting them in any way.

Just odd.

Like considering assault a more serious crime than murder.

10 posted on 04/27/2009 2:45:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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Went thru this in SERE and didn’t like it. However, we are doing this to assholes, not nice enemy combatants IN UNIFORM that signed the Geneva Convention. We haven’t cut off a head nor any other body part. I am sick of Lawyers, including JAG and can’t believe that the American public doesn’t go nuts over the effort to screw our kids and the Intelligence community. Wait till you see the show trial of the Somali pirate. The defense will want the Seal team to testify which will endanger them or make the government drop charges. Kill the pricks, no prisoners no trials.


11 posted on 04/27/2009 2:46:52 PM PDT by mortal19440
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If one drops waterboarding from the equation the other methods used were things like keeping the captives in windowless rooms and turnning the lights off and on at different times and feeding them on schedules that got them totally disoriented. They didn’t know if they had been asleep for one hour or 8 hours. Eventually the mind plays some wild tricks and the disorientation leads to dramatically diminished ability to withhold important information. Is this torture? If the subject is not aware of why exactly he is disoriented and his mind is playing tricks, how is this torture?


12 posted on 04/27/2009 3:13:05 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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There is, first of all, the matter of morality. Critics of enhanced interrogation techniques have taken to saying that Americans don’t torture, period – meaning in this instance that we do not engage in coercive interrogation techniques ranging from sleep deprivation to prolonged loud noise and/or bright lights to waterboarding. Anyone who holds the opposite view is a moral cretin and guilty of “arrant inhumanity.” Or so the argument goes.

My hubby, SirKit, says the first thing he'd ask someone who is so adamantly against torture would be if they are pro-abortion. If they are, then he'd ask them how they can justify the murder of an innocent baby, but be against making someone uncomfortable in order to extract information from them.

16 posted on 04/27/2009 10:55:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Let’s get one thing very clear. These “enemy combatants” are (were?) in truth, non-uniformed soldiers of an organized enemy force and, as such, could have been lawfully executed in the field! Torture (not what we did do but REAL torture) is the best that they could have expected and more quarter than they, themselves, were in the habit of giving. The lesson to be learned by any true patriot who, in the future, becomes CinC is to BOMB BIG and take no prisoners! So much for the compassionate warrior nonsense!


25 posted on 05/01/2009 2:14:58 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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