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Proponents of gun control shooting blanks
baltimoresun.com ^ | April 24, 2009 | Ron Smith

Posted on 04/26/2009 8:09:29 PM PDT by neverdem

Every so often I find myself stepping into the minefield that is public discussion of guns, gun violence, gun control and how these things relate to the Second Amendment to the Constitution. Because of misleading public statements by the president of the United States and his secretary of state, it's now time to do so again.

President Barack Obama said on April 16 that 90 percent of Mexico's recovered crime guns came from the United States. The comment came during a joint press conference with Mexican President Felipe Calderon addressing the raging violence south of the border, as Mexican drug gangs battle each other and the government in gruesome fashion. More people have been killed in this violence over the last year than the number of Americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined since those wars began. Mr. Obama also pointed out that the huge demand for mind-altering drugs among our citizenry is what keeps the drug cartels in business...

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Which state has the lower per capita rate of violent crime? It's not even close. Maryland, so eager to keep its citizens disarmed, had, as of 2006, a rate of 679 violent crimes per 100,000 population, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. That ranked eighth most violent in the nation. Pennsylvania's rate was 439 per 100,000, ranking it 21st. Not a single state that has liberalized its carry laws has seen fit to repeal the legislation. Case closed.

Dan Rodricks, my fellow Baltimore Sun columnist, is right: That fight is over. He calls it an opportunity lost. I call it a win for reality over theory.

Joe Curran said only law enforcement personnel and a small number of people with "legitimate security needs" should be allowed to own handguns. One should ask - whose security needs are not legitimate?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; falsenumbers; guncontrol; guns; impeachobama; obama

1 posted on 04/26/2009 8:09:29 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"President Barack Obama said on April 16 that 90 percent of Mexico's recovered crime guns came from the United States."

100% of the Mexican flu is coming up from Mexico.

2 posted on 04/26/2009 8:12:45 PM PDT by Enterprise (The Porkulus brought us economic swine flu.)
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To: neverdem
Joe Curran said only law enforcement personnel and a small number of people with "legitimate security needs" should be allowed to own handguns. One should ask - whose security needs are not legitimate?

That is so nicely put I just had to repeat it. The answer to it is "Who is not threatened?" And the truth of the matter is that no one is not threatened. And so this becomes a question of whether citizens in the United States are prepared to cede the ability to counter that threat exclusively to the state, however ineffective it proves in the effort. We aren't. Nor should we be.

3 posted on 04/26/2009 8:28:18 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

>people with “legitimate security needs”

When did self-defense NOT qualify as a “legitimate security need”? I mean if that’s the case this guy needs to go tell the army and marines that force-protection (self-defense) _ISN’T_ a legitimate security need... I mean how many millions of man-hours and dollars have been spent on that?

[/sarc]


4 posted on 04/26/2009 8:36:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: neverdem
One should ask - whose security needs are not legitimate?

No one is more concerned about your security than yourself and to eliminate your ability to protect yourself means you depend only on the state for protection. Even if the state was absolutely just and benevolent(an illusion), there aren't enough government resources to protect everyone.

5 posted on 04/26/2009 8:43:25 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: neverdem
To illustrate how the left have framed the very language of the debate consider the article's title. There is no issue here regarding “control”, it's all about abolishment. Firearms are already one of the most highly regulated objects in our society. The moral is that the sooner we take away the left’s power to manipulate the parlance of our debates, the sooner they will be defeated by clear light of truth.
6 posted on 04/26/2009 9:12:35 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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FOX NEWS.com: Port-Of-Spain, Trinidad and Tobago - "OBAMA REPEATS '90 PERECENT' STAT FOR U.S. GUNS RECOVERED IN MEXICO" by Major Garrett (April 19, 2009) (Read More...)

IBD EDITORIALS.com: "THE GUNS OF CALDERON" by Investor's Business Daily (Posted April 17, 2009) (Read More...)

FOX NEWS.com: "THE MYTH OF 90 PERCENT: ONLY A SMALL FRACTION OF GUNS IN MEXICO COME FROM U.S. While 90 percent of the guns traced to the U.S. actually originated in the United States, the percent traced to the U.S. is only about 17 percent of the total number of guns reaching Mexico." by William La Jeunesse and Maxim Lott (April 2, 2009) (Read More...)

7 posted on 04/26/2009 10:20:35 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

On The Internet:

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8 posted on 04/26/2009 10:29:20 PM PDT by Cindy
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9 posted on 04/27/2009 1:19:03 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower
Ten years ago, then-Maryland Attorney General J. Joseph Curran Jr. issued a 58-page report titled "A Farewell to Arms." In it, he called for an outright ban on private ownership of handguns. He said it was needed to end "an epidemic of violent yet preventable death." Joe Curran said only law enforcement personnel and a small number of people with "legitimate security needs" should be allowed to own handguns.

Hitler and the Nazis agreed.


10 posted on 04/27/2009 5:28:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: Travis McGee

Joe Curran would probably say that the guy in the center of the picture had “no legitimate security need”.


11 posted on 04/27/2009 5:35:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think he would say, “That’s absurd. That could NEVER happen here.”

He’s right, but not for the reasons he would think.

It won’t happen here precisely BECAUSE we are armed and on alert against tyranny.


12 posted on 04/27/2009 5:43:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: Travis McGee
“That’s absurd. That could NEVER happen here.”

Even Hubert Humphrey knew it was absurd to say "That could NEVER happen here".

Who knew Hubert Humphrey was a member of the VRWC?

13 posted on 04/27/2009 5:52:24 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: neverdem
"Contrast this with Pennsylvania, where any citizen with a clean record can apply for a permit, pay a small fee and pick up the license from sheriff's deputies who are happy to take your picture, put it on the card and hand it over to you."

Yes, PA has many stupid things going for it, but it is very gun friendly. For $25 and three people willing to vouch that you are not a psycho killer, you can get your 5 year conceal carry permit.
14 posted on 04/27/2009 8:54:55 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (iIt)
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Thanks neverdem!
Mexican drug gangs battle each other and the government in gruesome fashion. More people have been killed in this violence over the last year than the number of Americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined since those wars began... Which state has the lower per capita rate of violent crime? It's not even close. Maryland, so eager to keep its citizens disarmed, had, as of 2006, a rate of 679 violent crimes per 100,000 population, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. That ranked eighth most violent in the nation. Pennsylvania's rate was 439 per 100,000, ranking it 21st. Not a single state that has liberalized its carry laws has seen fit to repeal the legislation. Case closed.

15 posted on 04/27/2009 11:42:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 04/27/2009 9:01:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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