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Possibility of Bio-Terrorism in Swine Flu Outbreak
April 25, 2007 | freedomfighter1013

Posted on 04/25/2009 5:51:39 AM PDT by FreedomFighter1013

In a discussion this morning with a cell biologist and medical doctor working at Johns Hopkins, my friend thought this 4-part flu combination is highly unusual and looks like it could be man-made. Especially because it has an avian strain. My doctor friend (he's Taiwanese) explained that in Asia, it's common for a avian-swine-human flu to happen naturally, but this virus first showed up in Mexico, where pigs and ducks are not usually raised together. Also, recombination of more than 2-different flu viruses is extremely rare. I'm just repeating what he said as an expert in the field. He says the CDC needs to explain if there is a possibility that we are under a bio-weapon attack.

From CDC via Wikipedia: Anne Schuchat, director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said that the American cases were found to be made up of genetic elements from four different flu viruses -- North American swine influenza, North American avian influenza, human influenza A virus subtype H1N1, and swine influenza virus typically found in Asia and Europe. For two cases a complete genome sequence had been obtained. She said that the virus was resistant to amantadine and rimantadine, but susceptible to oseltamivir (Tamiflu) and zanamivir (Relenza).[22][23][24] Preliminary genetic characterization found that the hemagglutinin (HA) gene was similar to that of swine flu viruses present in U.S. pigs since 1999, but the neuraminidase (NA) and matrix protein (M) genes resembled versions present in European swine flu isolates. Viruses with this genetic makeup had not previously been found to be circulating in humans or pigs, but there is no formal national surveillance system to determine what viruses are circulating in pigs in the U.S.[25] The seasonal influenza strain H1N1 vaccine is thought to be unlikely to provide protection.[26]


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bioterrorism; chat; flu; mexican; mexicanflu; notbreakingnews; outbreak; speculation; swine; swineflu; tm; virus
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To: nitzy

When one distraction develops into another distraction can it be called a viral distraction?

When a plausible and effective delivery system for airborne agents has been developed and refined for years in uh, plane view, and people who question it are marginalized as ‘tin foilers’ can the name callers be unwitting political distractors?

While the globalists vision of a perfect Earth requires an 80% reduction of worldwide population, no one really believes our political parties are capable of participating in such a horrendous plan.

Not without clinging to a distraction or two.


221 posted on 04/25/2009 10:02:23 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31)
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To: FreedomFighter1013

Paging Captain Tripps.


222 posted on 04/25/2009 10:03:00 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Explain the Georgia Guidestones to me and how in the heck they’re allowed to be in the USA?

Private property, First Amendment?

You need any other explanation?

223 posted on 04/25/2009 10:03:32 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Suicide. And I’ve read reports that it is essentially ineffective anyway.


224 posted on 04/25/2009 10:04:55 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Jessica2677

Interesting find. Very suspicious destinations in combination.


225 posted on 04/25/2009 10:05:52 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Tamatoa
I think Michael Savage yesterday questioned the possibility of the Swine Flu as man-made.

Weiner is an utter idiot incapable of analysis and coherent thought.

226 posted on 04/25/2009 10:06:02 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: 1000 silverlings; cajungirl
It is unbelievable that you would think that,,and very much like somebody on DU who rails against the very companies that make our health care the best in the world.

It is also unbelievable that you think the government subsidized drug companies who rely on government controlled markets, the FDA and preferential legislation make our health care the best in the world. If your company doesn't make the right "contributions" your drugs won't get approved in a timely fashion. Similarly, if you grease the right palms whatever poison you want to sell can be put on the market. Medicine has become 50% political and 50% science.

I certainly don't think that the virus is engineered by pharmaceutical companies but at the same time it is silly to defend the virtue of prostitutes.

227 posted on 04/25/2009 10:06:03 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: mware

Reader comments from BBC website:

Reader’s comments from www.bbc.co.uk/news
(No dates or times on comments but taken from site at 4.40pm BST)

I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from “under control”. As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200. I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths.

Yeny Gregorio Dávila, Mexico City

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Gaze not to long into evil - lest evil gaze into thee.

MA


228 posted on 04/25/2009 10:06:15 AM PDT by Mother Abigail
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To: FreedomFighter1013

...”WHOOPIE! we’re all gonna die!”...

Maybe it just infects Liberals. Everything else seems to infect them.


229 posted on 04/25/2009 10:07:55 AM PDT by FTL
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To: nitzy

Well viruses are engineered by pharmaceutical companies, and this combination of pig, avian and human genetic materials is very unusual.


230 posted on 04/25/2009 10:08:49 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: ichabod1; 1000 silverlings

What a tragedy that Crichton died one month before his new book was to be released. Release date has now been pushed back by months. Wonder what “edits” may have occurred?


231 posted on 04/25/2009 10:09:21 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: ichabod1; 1000 silverlings

Ever read “Terminal Man?”


232 posted on 04/25/2009 10:10:50 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mother Abigail

Mother Abigail, if I start to have dreams about a “walkin’ man”, I am going to freak.


233 posted on 04/25/2009 10:11:04 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: FreedomFighter1013

Dr. Ken Alibek(SP) warned about this...


234 posted on 04/25/2009 10:12:04 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: kittymyrib
"Our crack DHS Sec. will probably be on CNN soon telling us there is absolutely no link to terrorists, and that will make everyone feel safe."

There have been internet rumors swirling for a couple of months about an avian flu pandemic being released by the govt as a means for Zero to take full control by declaring martial law. The rumor stated it was aimed at young people aged 20 -45 and to be released in the fall. Here is a link to a post at Plains radio. You can hit other links from there.

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=2442810129&frmid=8&msgid=998900&cmd=show

How much of it is horse$#!+? I have no clue, but I am to the point I don't know who or what to believe any more. The whole damn world is upside down....red

235 posted on 04/25/2009 10:13:37 AM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: Allegra
Don't fear the reaper.

-PJ

236 posted on 04/25/2009 10:14:24 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: G8 Diplomat
Chinese bioweapon meant to be released until we pay off our debt?

fyi, dead and sick people do not pay off debt.

237 posted on 04/25/2009 10:16:42 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Political Junkie Too
M-O-O-N.

That spells Swine Flu Outbreak.

238 posted on 04/25/2009 10:18:14 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: mware

Hoo boy, now Mother Abigail shows up on FR.


239 posted on 04/25/2009 10:23:16 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: FreedomFighter1013
"Mexico flu: Your experiences
Saturday, 25 April 2009 15:40 UK

"Readers in Mexico have been emailing the BBC describing the sense of fear gripping the country as a result of a flu virus outbreak, which has so far claimed up to 60 lives...Read a selection of BBC readers' comments below. "I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from "under control". As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were."

Even though they were vaccinated or because they were vaccinated? This needs investigating.

There's a supposed new mutated strain - combining human, swine, and avian strands - no one has ever seen or heard of before and they have an experimental vaccine already? Which cartel had a vaccine for a mutated strain never seen before? And those vaccinated died? Something doesn't smell right here.

How could there POSSIBLY have been time to conduct proper scientific tests on an experimental vaccine for a mutated strain of swine-human-avian hybrid influenza never seen before???

240 posted on 04/25/2009 10:23:42 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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