Asian-Americans blast UC Admissions Policy

AP Report ^ | April 24, 2009

[Steelfish]

Asian-Americans blast UC admissions policy They say new standards are unfair, will reduce their numbers on campus

April 24, 2009

SAN FRANCISCO - A new admissions policy set to take effect at the University of California system in three years is raising fears among Asian-Americans that it will reduce their numbers on campus, where they account for a remarkable 40 percent of all undergraduates.

University officials say the new standards — the biggest change in UC admissions since 1960 — are intended to widen the pool of high school applicants and make the process more fair.

But Asian-American advocates, parents and lawmakers are angrily calling on the university to rescind the policy, which will apply at all nine of the system's undergraduate campuses.

They point to a UC projection that said the new standards would sharply reduce Asian-American admissions while resulting in little change for blacks and Hispanics, and a big gain for white students.

"I like to call it affirmative action for whites," said Ling-chi Wang, a retired professor at UC Berkeley. "I think it's extremely unfair to Asian-Americans on the one hand and underrepresented minorities on the other."

Asian-Americans are the single largest ethnic group among UC's 173,000 undergraduates. In 2008, they accounted for 40 percent at UCLA and 43 percent at UC Berkeley — the two most selective campuses in the UC system — as well as 50 percent at UC San Diego and 54 percent at UC Irvine.

Asian-Americans are about 12 percent of California's population and 4 percent of the U.S. population overall.

[Gemsbok]

Your absolutely right.
However, that’s how researchers-demographers categorize and label.

Researching ‘Asian’ as a demographic yields some very interesting contrasts among ethnicities if you can find studies that break them out.

If my memory is correct, the Indian population had they highest family stability scores and fit the model of what we once knew as the traditional family (highest rate of marriage, lowest divorce rate, child abandonment does not exist, strongest cohesiveness of extended family unity, and virtually no one lives alone - always with a bro, sis, cousin, aunt or some familial relation.)
They also had the highest rate of Bachelor, Masters and PhD degrees, surpassing the degree holders among White-Americans. They also had <.01% figures on incarceration as did most of the rest of the labeled ‘Asian ethnicities.’ But, at the same time, we need to examine this from the perspecitve that only the most fortunate of the native India population is able to immigrate to the US.

If I find a link to these studies in the next few days, I’ll ping you back here.

[PapaBear3625]

So instead of finding out why poor-to-middle income Asians do significantly better at school than poor-to-middle income Blacks and poor-to-middle income Hispanics— liberals just ask for more money!! Unbelievable.

The upsetting thing for Liberals is that low-income Asians score better on the SAT than upper-middle-class blacks. It blows away a lot of their favorite theories if examined too closely.

[angkor]

Well knock yourself out on this site :)

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_alt_category.html?category_id=95

It has a lot of “Asian” polling info that goes back several years.

However in more recent years they have gotten sloppy in conflating ethnicities as mentioned in the above post.

[Gemsbok]

Asians are too small a % (3-4) to be the problem. Plus, the majority contribute very greatly to American society. The huge majority come from “in-tact” families, stable homes, and have advanced very well through the education system. They are hard-working entrepeuneurs and established professionals. They are misaligned with the Donkey party for odd reasons like global warming or wrongly thinking it is the party of non-discrimination. If they have been raised in ‘collectivism’ they may not yet understand or appreciate individualism and independence.

Vietnamese, Koreans, and some Chinese who have lived in or near Communism clearly recognize our trainUSA has left the station.
Cubans sadly see it, too.
I witnessed Cubans openly weeping after the election.
They said “Cuba got change in 1959” and “I can’t believe America would fall like this.” Likewise, the few Vietnamese I have spoken with are mortified in disbelief.

Change=Chains

[Poe White Trash]

The Chinese men and women I knew in Taiwan (I lived there for most of the 90s) had no trouble packing it away. And those Tibetans were mean drunks!

Fewer Asians at college keggers may simply mean that they are a little more serious about their studies than the average Joe (or Jane) Campus. If so, good for them!

[muawiyah]

NOT ALL Asians have the gene that makes them turn red and puke their guts out from alcohol poisoning ~ but plenty do.

[Poe White Trash]

>>> NOT ALL Asians have the gene that makes them turn red and puke their guts out from alcohol poisoning ~ but plenty do. <<<

Plenty DON’T, as far as I can tell.

Are you telling me that all of the bars I saw — and visited — when I was there existed because Chinese like to puke their guts out on a regular basis? They must puke very quietly (and out of sight!)

... and that all of the convenience stores I saw that sold beer bottles of beer and distilled liquor sold the stuff to Chinese masochists who like to get alchohol poisoning?

... and that the trip I took to the Taiwan Beer plant was just in my imigination?

Sure. Yeah.

[muawiyah]

There are lots and lots of Asians ~ MILLIONS and MILLIONS. If only half of them show up at the beer joints on Saturday night that's gonna' be a crowd.

Looks like you met them all.

You might well try reading through this piece to give you an idea of what this is about: http://www.treatmentonline.com/blog/index.asp?blog_id=2270

[Poe White Trash]

>>> There are lots and lots of Asians ~ MILLIONS and MILLIONS. If only half of them show up at the beer joints on Saturday night that’s gonna’ be a crowd. <<<

Actually, there are BILLIONS and BILLIONS of Asians. If only half of them had the ability to show up at bars on Friday night, then that would be a lot less than the “MANY Asian origin folks” from your first post.

>>> Looks like you met them all. <<<

It looks like you tested and counted them all.

How many is many? 10,000 out of 2 billion? 100,000 out of 2 billion? Sickle-cell anemia is an inherited problem that occurs in populations of African descent, but to say that MANY Africans have it, without quantifying that many, is idiotic.

Or, let’s look at Tay-Sachs disease. Everyone knows that it is more prevalent among Ashkenazi Jew and French Canadian populations. However, that doesn’t mean that MANY Ashkenazi Jews have Tay-Sachs (it’s a rare disease in any population, just not as rare among the Ashkenazi).

Seems to me that if a country has breweries and distilleries, and bars, and beer and spirits readily available for sale, that MANY here actually means A FEW.

>>> You might well try reading through this piece to give you an idea of what this is about: http://www.treatmentonline.com/blog/index.asp?blog_id=2270 <<<

I read pieces like that before my first post. No quantification of the occurrence of this phenomena — no wonder you like this source of information. It’s as vague about numbers as you are.

Get a life, and stop mischaracterizing Asians, East or South, as being folks who can’t safely drink liquor.

[muawiyah]

don't be ridiculous. Half the Asians is still one large mess of people ~ "many" in fact.

There's a reason you didn't run into the alcohol intolerant half.

[muawiyah]

BTW, it’s not a mischaracterization. I know a good number of them, all fine folks, and NONE of them hang around your juke joints.

[Poe White Trash]

Of course — the reason I didn’t run into them is that they don’t exist in large numbers: at least not in the “puke their guts out” variety.

[muawiyah]

True enough, the reaction varies ~ kind of like fish allergies. About half the people in the world have one ~ but not all to the same degree. The other half eat fish like poptarts.

If you go looking for them in beerjoints you are not likely to find many.

[Poe White Trash]

Oddly enough, I know a good number of them too, also fine folks. Some of the younger ones go to bars; others drink at home (especially when there’s a holiday meal) or at restaurants.

By the way, when I went to a bar or restaurant when in Taiwan I drank Coke or tea. I’m a teetotaler.

Your mischaracterization continues...

[manc]

WHAT, no chance in hell

if some one comes from Afghanistan they are called afghans
turkey is Turks
British is Brit
Australian is Aussies
Kurdistan is a Kurd
etc
etc
etc

you said

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To use the word “Paki” would be the equal of calling Clarence Thomas the N WORD

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it is an abbriviation for where someone comes from like I highlighted above

paki is short for Pakistani
same as Turkish is short for Turk etc etc
don’t give me that the word or abbreviation of paki is racist. I expect that from the radical left

pashtun, afghan, Kashmir and the I was put there because of when the British used it for for abbreviation.

[manc]

BTW
the only people in the UK who feel like you do are the ones who read the guardian or daily mirror and listen to the BBC

seeing as I am from there///(are you?) then you are the first person here in America who has ever thought an abbreviation of where someone is from is racist.

so is Turk racist?
is Brit racist?
is Kurd racist?
is tajik racist?
is Aussie racist?
is paki racist?

you tell me why paki is different from Ali the rest, please I would love to know how you single one abbreviation out to the others for being racist?

I look forward to your answer here as even the whack job left cannot answer this