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North Korea is fully fledged nuclear power, experts agree
Times Online (U.K.) ^ | April 23, 2009 | Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 04/23/2009 9:44:48 AM PDT by Schnucki

North Korea has become a fully fledged nuclear power, with the capacity to wipe out cities in Japan and South Korea.

The uncomfortable truth has been confirmed by a number of experts, from the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency to the US Defence Secretary. According to intelligence briefings shown to academic experts, North Korea has successfully miniaturised nuclear warheads that could be launched on medium-range missiles.

This puts it ahead of Iran in the race for nuclear attack capability, and significantly alters the balance of power between North Korea’s large but poorly equipped military and the South Korean and US forces ranged against it.

“North Korea has nuclear weapons, which is a matter of fact,” the head of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, said this week. “I don't like to accept any country as a nuclear weapon state. We have to face reality.”

North Korea carried out an underground nuclear test in 2006, but until recently foreign governments believed that such nuclear devices were useless as weapons of war because they were too unwieldy to be mounted on a missile.

With 13,000 artillery pieces buried close to the border between the two Koreas, and chemical and biological warheads, it was always understood that the North could inflict significant conventional damage on the South Korean capital, Seoul. But Western military planners have calculated that it could not strike targets outside the peninsula, and that superior US and South Korean forces would soon obliterate its Army and its Government.

Now, however, North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong Il, has the potential to kill millions of people in Japan, as well as the South, and to lay waste to US bases and airfields in both countries. It will force military strategists to rethink plans for war in Korea and dramatically increases the potential

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bhoasia; bhonukes; bushfault; clintonfault; korea; nknukes; nkorea; nuclear; obamasfault
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1 posted on 04/23/2009 9:44:48 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

And we just let it happen, though the wonderful “art” of appeasement.


2 posted on 04/23/2009 9:45:29 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: Schnucki

Time for BHO to send Kim Jong-Il an iPod and some DVDs. That’ll melt his genocidal heart!


3 posted on 04/23/2009 9:49:00 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Schnucki

One Ohio class sub would wipe North Korea off the face of the earth.


4 posted on 04/23/2009 9:49:10 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Schnucki

How can they be judged a “fully fledged nuclear power” if they’ve never gotten a fully-fledged nuclear explosion?


5 posted on 04/23/2009 9:51:29 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Schnucki

So, what’s new. So will be Iran. And when the first city in the US is nuked. Oh, how we will cry. And King Obama is reducing our military capability, might as well get ready now and move out of cities, buy more ammo and get ready for the invasion. This as@hat will plead, please can’t we talk?


6 posted on 04/23/2009 9:51:29 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Schnucki

They're not using it for electricity

7 posted on 04/23/2009 9:51:50 AM PDT by hugorand
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To: wk4bush2004

Started with Clinton and continued with W.


8 posted on 04/23/2009 9:52:22 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Schnucki

No!!!! Really???? I didn’t know that. What a surprise. And what’s our leader going to do about it? Nothing comes to mind, until they use the weapons.


9 posted on 04/23/2009 9:52:46 AM PDT by RC2 (FREEDOM)
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To: Schnucki; rdl6989; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo

Ping


10 posted on 04/23/2009 9:52:48 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: hugorand

That “one dot” in North Korea must be the home of the dictator!


11 posted on 04/23/2009 9:54:20 AM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: CarolinaGOP

Yep, that’s Pyongyang where the little dictator lives


12 posted on 04/23/2009 9:57:18 AM PDT by hugorand
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To: Schnucki

No problem. Send ‘lil Kim an iPod loaded with Obama speeches.


13 posted on 04/23/2009 9:59:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Schnucki

Like Iran, North Korea is veneer-thin in any kind of military strength.


14 posted on 04/23/2009 9:59:17 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Farmer Dean

A salvo from an Ohio-Class boomer.

Not sure how our Japanese friends would feel being downwind of all that.


15 posted on 04/23/2009 10:31:06 AM PDT by Dixiekraut (( Rommell...you magnificent bastard . I READ YOUR BOOK !!! ))
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To: hugorand

Any idea what the lights are off the SE coast of S. Korea? Lit up fishing boats??? Doesn’t seem quite right.


16 posted on 04/23/2009 10:31:50 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Liberty1970

Probably fishing boats and ships. Pusan is down there and is their largest port and 2nd largest city.


17 posted on 04/23/2009 10:47:34 AM PDT by hugorand
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To: Schnucki

“Scientists from former Soviet Union, Pakistan, and Iran walked into a North Korean bar... “

After several glasses of fermented goat urine, the Pakistani scientist says, “We have built a conventional atom bomb for Kim.” He reaches into his pocket and pulls out a photo of a very large nuclear device, and proudly shows it to the other scientists. “Unfortunately the underground test did not go well.”

After several more glasses of fermented camel urine, The Iranian scientist says,”We have built an atomic bomb for The Dear Leader that will fit into a missile.” He pulls a photo of a much smaller bomb from his pocket, and proudly displays it. “Unfortunately, the cheesy North Korean No Dong fell into the sea.”

After even more glasses of vodka, the Russian scientist says, “Dat’s nothink! We have made a 1,000 kiloton bomb that is no bigger than a wallet!” He reaches into his back pocket and pulls out what appears to be a wallet, but it has an ominous red button in it’s center. “Unfortunately, it has yet to be tested. Here, hold my vodka, and watch this!”


18 posted on 04/23/2009 10:52:50 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: DuncanWaring
How can they be judged a “fully fledged nuclear power” if they’ve never gotten a fully-fledged nuclear explosion?

Excellent point.

One Fast Breeder reactor of a vintage design and one dud test do NOT a nuclear power make.

There are many reasons why the test went dud. One is the design had serious problems (likely) or the "pit" was not pure enough (also likely) or a combination of both.

I feel that NK had no idea what went wrong with their dud, and have no clue to this very day. Only after their glorious failure, were they willing to resume talks at all.

There is no reason, especially given that all their technology was bought or stolen, to consider them anything other than what they are:

A rogue Nation run by thugs.

19 posted on 04/23/2009 12:14:20 PM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: Schnucki

Thanks and Bookmark for Later


20 posted on 04/23/2009 12:20:32 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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