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Depopulation Threatens Russia 10 Ways, Moscow Demographer Says
The Moscow Times ^ | 04/17/09 | Paul Goble

Posted on 04/19/2009 7:17:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: TigerLikesRooster

Interesting to consider this article in context of our problems with Islam, or the Taliban in particular.

In addition (obviously) to religion, the big conflict is between western notions of individualism versus their concept of tribalism.

For the Taliban, the tribe is the ‘organism’, not the individual — not unlike a bee having a unique existence but the real ‘organism’ is the hive.

Tribalism’s rules about banning intermarrying, subjugating women, marrying early, polygamy, etc, evolved to protect the population level and the social purity of the tribe.

Obviously, we have moved beyond that, but in the process — the new problem is - certain attitudes that have replaced tribalism, that are causing populations to drop.

Humorous that when I was a freshman in college, my biology textbook was “The Population Bomb” by Paul Ehrlich. “World population to outgrow food resources by 1980!!” and the like.

Never has someone ever been so spectacularly wrong about the world and what makes it work.

Now the Paul Ehrlich spawn — the global warming crowd - intends to fulfill Ehrlich’s wishes. They are HAPPY about the depopulation levels, as it reduces our carbon footprint, etc.

So it goes...


21 posted on 04/19/2009 8:32:23 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It has already happened, siberia is almost completely chinese and growing.


22 posted on 04/19/2009 8:33:29 AM PDT by genghis
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Anyone ever read Arthur C. Clarke’s “Odyssey “ series (2001, 2010, 2065 and 3001)? It kind of reminds me of what’s happening to Earth (2065 book).


23 posted on 04/19/2009 8:34:10 AM PDT by ak267
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Russia needs to get rid of abortion, re-enforce religious views, and stress the patriotic need for large families. They will turn this around in time.”

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.

This is why the future of America is assured. We patriotic, pro-life conservatives are having waaaayyyyy more kids than the life-hating libs. Soon libs will be nothing more than a curiosity that our many Christian children and grandchildren will occasionally ask about.


24 posted on 04/19/2009 9:15:23 AM PDT by guns_for_liberty
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To: guns_for_liberty

unless they are snatched from our influence by those libs in the government school systems...


25 posted on 04/19/2009 10:09:45 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Do you want a President or a King?)
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To: noname07718
"The Chinese are supposed to have 32 mil. more men than women of childbearing age. They have their own problems.

Lots of "gaiety" coming to China soon.

26 posted on 04/19/2009 12:29:09 PM PDT by cookcounty (Sarah Palin: The Alaskan Democrats' Gingko Biloba: "...d'oh, NOW I remember... back in 1991....")
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv; Saberwielder; nuconvert; AmericanInTokyo; gandalftb

There are several studies on this, one is in Public Policy & Aging Report by Mark L. Haas:

For example, Russia’s working-age population (ages 15 to 64) is expected to shrink 34 percent by 2050. The country’s population is already decreasing by 700,000 people per year. Also by 2050, China’s median age is predicted to be nearly 45. Given this fact, Haas believes their government will be faced with a difficult choice: allow growing levels of poverty within an exploding elderly population, or provide the resources necessary to combat this problem by diverting funds from military spending.

The United States is not immune to the problems of global aging, but it does stand to fare better than many of its rivals. In 2050, this country’s median age will be the lowest of any of the great powers. And by the same year, the working-age population in the U.S. is expected to increase by 31 percent. Additionally, the United States has a relatively well-funded pension system.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20080024194254data_trunc_sys.shtml

Drunken Nation: Russia’s Depopulation Bomb

Nicholas Eberstadt
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/2009%20-%20Spring/full-Eberstadt.html

Spengler, aka David P Goldman, wrote an analysis http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JH19Ag04.html


27 posted on 04/19/2009 12:39:31 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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This half-Polish American wouldn't mind seeing a weak, depopulated Russia, although I would prefer the Chinese seizing territory in place of the Islamics.

Too many nukes their to simply wish it to plummet into anarchy OR neo-colonialism.

28 posted on 04/19/2009 12:41:05 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Klondike

Mexico’s population is NOT exploding. The birthrate has plummeted from 6 children per woman in the early 1960s to 2.2 today.


29 posted on 04/19/2009 12:42:17 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

not with a bang, but a whimper.

Russia’s envoy to NATO calls Georgian drills “insanity”
RIA Novosti | 04/18/09
Posted on 04/19/2009 4:05:06 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2232679/posts


30 posted on 04/19/2009 6:18:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: AdmSmith

Whoops! Thanks AdmSmith.


31 posted on 04/19/2009 6:20:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: noname07718
The Chinese are supposed to have 32 mil. more men than women of childbearing age. They have their own problems.

Yeah but Russia has a much higher percentage of women to men.

The men have a tendency to drink themselves to death.

If the Chinese men were to present themselves as sober, hardworking men seeking a wife then the problem would resolve it's self, theoretically.

In reality both sides tend to be rather racist and even beyond that there is a huge cultural divide that would make the solution unlikely.

32 posted on 04/19/2009 6:26:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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Oh I know all of that. I was just trying to see if I could get a rise out of some do-gooder, socialist demographic engineer to take the bait.

Sigh, since I've only received intelligent responses like yours, the liberals didn't rise to the bait.

Be well!

33 posted on 04/20/2009 12:03:19 PM PDT by noname07718 (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction-Ronald Reagan 1993)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Oh I know all of that. I was just trying to see if I could get a rise out of some do-gooder, socialist demographic engineer to take the bait.

Sigh, since I've only received intelligent responses like yours, the liberals didn't rise to the bait.

Be well!

34 posted on 04/20/2009 12:03:27 PM PDT by noname07718 (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction-Ronald Reagan 1993)
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