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Milwaukee Police Department Find Problems With Its Guns
WISN.com ^ | April 16, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 04/17/2009 10:58:26 AM PDT by Last Dakotan

MILWAUKEE -- The Milwaukee Police Department found that there is a serious problem with its guns.

Officer Vidal Colon was injured over the weekend in a shootout, in which his gun jammed.

The police chief has known about the problem for a year, but he is now taking immediate action following Saturday’s shooting.

The chief sent a memo to the entire police department about the weapon problem.

On Saturday, Colon responded to a report of a man armed with a gun near 36th and Scott streets.

Colon fired his gun 13 times, and the suspect, Louis Domenech, shot back six times, refusing to drop his weapon, said police.

Both men were hit, and police have been investigating the shootout. They learned that one bullet casing had stovepiped, or jammed, in the officer’s weapon.

(Excerpt) Read more at wisn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; glock; glock22
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To: SJSAMPLE

I have 3000 rounds of 9mm loaded with Ranier 127 gr HPs..+P too


81 posted on 04/17/2009 12:39:31 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think you're so full of inconsolable rage, you don't care who you hurt.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I thought they bought the P95s for tanker drivers?


82 posted on 04/17/2009 12:40:40 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think you're so full of inconsolable rage, you don't care who you hurt.)
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To: Armedanddangerous
1st thing is we had better get a pistol with some ummmph, 40 caliber, have mercy. Lets look at a S/W 44 Mag or something that will stop someone. 41 mouse gun.
83 posted on 04/17/2009 12:46:36 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Armedanddangerous

LOL.

Nope.

The Army is still looking for a “Personal Defense Weapon” for armored vehicle crewman and other support personnel, but adding another pistol into the inventory isn’t on the books.


84 posted on 04/17/2009 12:46:37 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: kitchen

My current carry is a Springfield XD45. 13+1 in a package that’s smaller than a double-stack 1911. If I go to a mag that’s as long as the single-stack 1911 10 rounders, I get 15 rounds.

60 rounds is four magazines, not six, at that point. Six magazines nets me *90* rounds and a world of tactical possibilities.


85 posted on 04/17/2009 12:46:55 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cyclotic

***I had a serious cyclider jam with my SW Model 19 and .357 Magnum rounds. It jammed, would not turn nor could I open it.***

It sounds as if you had some unburned powder grains behind the extractor.


86 posted on 04/17/2009 12:51:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: Spktyr

Way Kool! Thanks alot. Going to link now.


87 posted on 04/17/2009 12:53:25 PM PDT by devistate one four (CW II on the way! Stand by. TET68)
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To: XeniaSt

True, also a knife will rust if you do not care for it. Even a single shot firearm will fail if you do not clean it every now and then. That being said, an improperly maintained revolver is less likely to jam than an improperly cared for semiautomatic


88 posted on 04/17/2009 12:54:43 PM PDT by sticker
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To: BooBoo1000

How about a 45 ACP caliber glock 30 or the 21 SF or the 45 cal smith and wesson military and police?


89 posted on 04/17/2009 12:55:52 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think you're so full of inconsolable rage, you don't care who you hurt.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“It sounds as if you had some unburned powder grains behind the extractor.”

I concur..that gun needs a serious cleaning...and it should be right as rain.


90 posted on 04/17/2009 12:57:28 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think you're so full of inconsolable rage, you don't care who you hurt.)
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To: sticker

Those are beautiful revolvers. What are the models numbers?


91 posted on 04/17/2009 12:58:41 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Somali want a cracker?)
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To: sticker

Yeah! Give me a wheelgun any day (but make it a S&W)


92 posted on 04/17/2009 1:02:06 PM PDT by abovethefray
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To: SJSAMPLE
The first “NFML” (Non-Full Metal Lined) magazines were designed to do that.

Those crazy Europeans, with their history of magazine heel-releases, wanted to strip a mag from the grip.

The last two or three generations drop right out, no problem.

Glock designed it as a feature.

The 1911 people saw it as a problem;
Glock redesigned it for the marketplace.


93 posted on 04/17/2009 1:05:21 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Armedanddangerous; BooBoo1000
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94 posted on 04/17/2009 1:16:46 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: sticker
That being said, an improperly maintained revolver is less likely to jam than an improperly cared for semiautomatic

As a trainer of firearms instructors,
I have seen many more revolvers which failed to operate.

Particularly .357 and larger bores.

NRA T/C CRSO


95 posted on 04/17/2009 1:23:14 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: XeniaSt

Three questions then since you know more than I: (1) What is the average age of the failed revolvers vs average age of the failed semi? (2) How many revolvers are out there vs number of semis? (3) What was the average age of the failed weapon’s ammo, again revolver vs semi?


96 posted on 04/17/2009 1:28:54 PM PDT by sticker
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To: sticker
Three questions then since you know more than I: (1) What is the average age of the failed revolvers vs average age of the failed semi? (2) How many revolvers are out there vs number of semis? (3) What was the average age of the failed weapon’s ammo, again revolver vs semi?

It is a function of lack of training of the operator.

97 posted on 04/17/2009 1:35:15 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: XeniaSt

So, you are saying that the number of jams is directly related to the training of the user? That makes sense, still would be interested to see the stats on those three questions.

Speaking of people with a lack of training, time to go play on the Nashville interstates. Have a nice weekend


98 posted on 04/17/2009 1:43:46 PM PDT by sticker
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To: sticker
Have a nice weekend

Have a wonderful weekend.

I'm hunkered down under a couple of feet of snow here in the Rockies.


99 posted on 04/17/2009 1:46:31 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: jurroppi1

Traditionally, american made firearms need to be broken in before they function properly. You don’t need to break in a glock. Glocks have such loose chambers that they generally work no matter what.


100 posted on 04/17/2009 1:53:25 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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