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Posted on 04/14/2009 8:11:59 PM PDT by neverdem
EPA agrees to study acidic seas; move adds to regulation momentum
The Obama administration took another step toward regulating carbon dioxide, issuing a notice Tuesday that the Environmental Protection Agency will review whether those emissions should fall under the Clean Water Act.
The EPA earlier this year determined that C02 should be regulated under the Clean Air Act due to its impact on temperatures. But Tuesday's notice — soliciting scientific data as to what extent seas are made more acidic by C02 — could extend regulation out to U.S. waters.
The notice was in response to a petition filed by the Center for Biological Diversity, which wants the EPA to impose stricter pH criteria for ocean water quality and publish guidance to help states protect their waters from ocean acidification, which reduces pH levels.
"As more CO2 dissolves in the ocean, it reduces ocean pH, which changes the chemistry of the water," the EPA said in its notice. "These changes present potential risks across a broad spectrum of marine ecosystems."
"Preliminary projections indicate that oceans will become more acidic over time and overall, the net effect is likely to disrupt the normal functioning of many marine and coastal ecosystems," it added.
Miyoko Sakashita, a Center for Biological Diversity attorney, called acidification "likely the greatest threat to the health of our oceans."
"The federal government has finally acknowledged that ocean acidification is a threat," Sakashita added. "Now it must take the next step and fully implement the Clean Water Act to protect our nation’s waters from 'the other CO2 problem.'"
The EPA said that among the input it hopes to gather is a national study commissioned last September by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. That study is expected to take 18 months to complete.
The EPA said it hoped to...
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
Actually if CO2 causes global warming, the higher temperaure will degassify the oceans - that’s what’s happened every intergalcial period over the last million years.
attn : Bush
thanks a lot for throwing
Newt’s congressional majority away
“Note also the claim that pH has changed by 0.1 units over the last 200 years: it was not possible a hundred years ago, never mind 200 years ago, to measure pH to the accuracy necessary to support that assertion, so it’s just posturing.”
http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/2009/04/here-comes-ocean-acidification-scam.html
Where this is going is giving the Democratic Congress, both the Senate and the House, reason to pass a National Carbon tax, and/or a Cap and Trade Tax.
The Congress has demonstrated that they don’t have the stones to do this on their own, and the Administration is clearly hoping EPA will provide both the mandate and the cover that Congress needs to impose this tax in spite of the economy.
BOHICA...
Does that burn 10 minutes after having a sip?
I suppose these nitwits will come up with a proposal to spend tax dollars to find a way to shut off all the massive volcanoes and vents along the floors of the world’s oceans, which fill the oceans with CO2 from the bottom up....
The oldest is from 1883. I have to wonder when they decided to express acidity in terms of pH?
Thanks for the link, but it's a weird URL. One that wouldn't let me go back to this thread. I had to close the window.
Leaving out water vapor is a convenient hack to blow the significance of CO2 out of proportion.
| Based on concentrations (ppb) adjusted for heat retention characteristics | Percent of Total | Percent of Total --adjusted for water vapor |
| Water vapor | ----- | 95.000% |
| Carbon Dioxide (CO2) | 72.369% | 3.618% |
| Methane (CH4) | 7.100% | 0.360% |
| Nitrous oxide (N2O) | 19.000% | 0.950% |
| CFC's (and other misc. gases) | 1.432% | 0.072% |
| Total | 100.000% | 100.000% |
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