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EDITORIAL: 'We want them registered'--Democrats are going after guns
The Washington Times ^ | April 13, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 04/13/2009 5:14:23 AM PDT by Scanian

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, announced last week that she wants to register guns. Her next move will be to try to confiscate them.

The speaker picked a television show with a viewership of 4.6 million to float the Democrats' coming gun-control push. Questioned on ABC's "Good Morning America" about the prospect of new gun-control laws now that "it's a Democratic president, a Democratic House," she responded, "We don't want to take their guns away. We want them registered."

Politicians and bureaucrats routinely claim that registration helps solve crimes. If a registered gun is used in a crime and left at the crime scene, registration supposedly lets the police trace the gun back to the criminal. Though this turn of events might work on fictional TV crime shows, it virtually never occurs in real life. Criminals' guns are rarely left at crime scenes. When guns are left behind, it usually is because a crook has been seriously injured or killed and the police are poised to catch him anyway.

The few guns left at crime scenes rarely - if ever - are registered to the perpetrator. If they are registered at all, it is to someone else, whose piece was stolen. Despite what Mrs. Pelosi might think, those who use guns to commit major crimes such as robbing and killing are unlikely to respect her request to file paperwork so the government can catalog the tools of their trade.

Numerous examples disprove gun-control propaganda. Hawaii has had licensing and registration of guns for about 50 years.

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To: classified
Millions of law abiding American's own guns that are not registered. They have been handed down, family cherished heirlooms.

Millions of law abiding American's have purchased guns that are NOT registered....as recently as today. From a private party.....

Do you actually think that thieves, rapists, murderer's and gang members are going to abide by this "registration" drive...by the Feds?

Do you understand exactly what the 2nd..says, and means?

121 posted on 04/13/2009 11:21:57 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: napscoordinator
At a gun show, I don’t think you have to give your information.

You are ignorant of the circumstances then.........

You DO have to give info if you buy from a dealer...( A FFL holder..)

You DON'T have to give or exchange info with a private party...At least in the states that I am aware of......

122 posted on 04/13/2009 11:25:18 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: thethirddegree

“I have heard that gun control issues are usually very toxic from a political perspective—I’m surprised that Pelosi would try this.”

One of her over-reaches. This will be costly, especially to the blue dogs. NRA will be all over this.


123 posted on 04/13/2009 11:25:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: oldfart
Yeah....I see ton's of gang-banger types at every gun show I go to........

/s

124 posted on 04/13/2009 11:28:09 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: bgill

“I say she starts by registering gangsta guns first.”

Right. I challenger her to go stand at the corner of Florence and Normandie in LA’s South Central and announce on a bullhorn her intent to force gun registration on the fine citizens there.


125 posted on 04/13/2009 11:29:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: classified

What state are you in?


126 posted on 04/13/2009 11:29:52 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: lentulusgracchus

My Colt Commander ran off with a Galco holster he met in a bar. Haven’t seen him since. That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.


127 posted on 04/13/2009 11:40:43 AM PDT by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: Miss Behave
As I understand it, currently the BATF is still backlogged several years in doing the data entry for all the millions of 4473s that were turned in when Clinton purged the FFL dealers, some years back. They are stashed in a warehouse in Pittsburgh. It seems that those dealers were not as rigorous about storage, filing, and penmenship as it might have been hoped.

And rumor has it that, while the BATF now likes unannounced audits on FFLs to check record keeping, they are not allowed to keep any data collected for more than one month. I also know an old FFL holder that keeps most of his older 4473s in a 55 gallon drum full of brine, for safety.

In passing, I might also point out that the BATF likes to sneak around gun shops and shows, trying to spot perceived "violations" that they can prosecute. The last I can attest to, having met some crew cut idiot with a Second Chance vest acting all stupid and asking questions about where he could get a gun converted to full auto.

I explained that all I knew about "them there machine gun things" wus whut I seen on the Televizir, when I wusn't watching Extreme Cage Fighting....

128 posted on 04/13/2009 12:06:53 PM PDT by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: Scanian

how does it feel to want nancy??????


129 posted on 04/13/2009 12:20:38 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: shelterguy

And even our local gun club requires private parties to do the screening when purchasing at their annual gun show. I was really surprised by that! I guess they want to show how ‘responsible’ they are.


130 posted on 04/13/2009 12:30:00 PM PDT by Twotone
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If someone tries to shoot you, you must take the following steps:
Call 911.
Tell them your name and location.
Explain the situation in detail.
Answer all irrelevant questions.
Be patient while waiting for the police to arrive on the scene.
Stay on the line.
If shooting is still going on when the police arrive, wait while they call for reinforcements.
When the swat team arrives, be patient while they wait for the situation "play itself out" before any law enforcement personnel is allowed to enter the building.
If you manage to escape, be prepared to be caught, searched and possibly arrested before you get any medical help.
If the assailant is still alive, he will be caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
The assailant, alive or dead, will get much more media attention than any of the victims.
If you are still alive, you may be asked to become a gun-control advocate. That is the only way you will get on TV.

See, you have all the protection you need.
Obama will repair your car, Pelosi will protect your life.
No need to worry.
131 posted on 04/13/2009 12:32:20 PM PDT by BitWielder1
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To: jonascord
"In passing, I might also point out that the BATF likes to sneak around gun shops and shows, trying to spot perceived "violations" that they can prosecute. The last I can attest to, having met some crew cut idiot with a Second Chance vest acting all stupid and asking questions about where he could get a gun converted to full auto.

I explained that all I knew about "them there machine gun things" wus whut I seen on the Televizir, when I wusn't watching Extreme Cage Fighting...."

I love your response. LOL. It's twisted stuff, huh, jonascord? Yours isn't the first story I've heard of what they're doing and their (sick and desperate) tactics. They sure misunderestimate Americans.

All you can do is tell yourself and realize that their behavior IS desperation, in a way, and they'll always be taking one step forward and two back...when faced with educated, freedom-loving and seeking, untreadable-on Americans.

Bumping you.

132 posted on 04/13/2009 12:33:54 PM PDT by Miss Behave ("Easter SEALs!!!" ~ FReeper Choose Ye This Day)
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To: Scanian

Too late Nancy, sold and lost.


133 posted on 04/13/2009 12:42:19 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: GnL

If guns get registered, you will see newspapers publishing the “list
___________
They can only get registered if sheople allow it. No real American would even consider going along with that crap.


134 posted on 04/13/2009 12:43:23 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Niteranger68

http://sgcusa.com/index.html

Nancy might want to check out this site and see what is SOLD out. About 95% of every rifle, pistol, shotgun, GONE. Long gone.


135 posted on 04/13/2009 12:58:15 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: angelcindy
how does it feel to want nancy??????

Barf! Don't say things like that - read the wrong way, one can lose their lunch all over the keyboard!

136 posted on 04/13/2009 1:03:29 PM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: mojitojoe
Nancy might want to check out this site and see what is SOLD out. About 95% of every rifle, pistol, shotgun, GONE. Long gone.

It depends on what you are looking for and how often you are willing to check. Just a few weeks ago, SGC had 30 DPMS AR-15's (AP4) for $995 each. They all went in about 36 hours. Stock levels change by the hour. The more often you check, the better chance you have at finding what you want.

137 posted on 04/13/2009 1:06:18 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (As 0bama punishes us, we are punishing his supporters ten fold.)
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To: BitWielder1
Scary thing is that seems perfectly reasonable to the Insanely stupid leftists

Or else they wouldn't support the Disarming of the Law-abiding, right?

138 posted on 04/13/2009 1:08:28 PM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: Scanian

139 posted on 04/13/2009 1:11:07 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: ScottinVA
Right!
Clean up the streets first, before you even try to regulate law-abiding citizens.
The problem is that liberals can't seem to distinguish between big and small problems.
I have not been able to find the exact statistics, but I strongly suspect that the criminal-on-criminal shooting murder rate is much higher than any other kind,
followed by criminal-on-lawful, then lawful-on-criminal (which is not murder if it was self defense).
Finally, I suspect that the lawful-on-lawful murder rate is exceedingly low.

So:

1. Enforce existing gun laws first, take guns away from those who already are not supposed to have them.
2. Until 1. is complete, don't even think of 2.
140 posted on 04/13/2009 1:13:24 PM PDT by BitWielder1
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