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U.S. ship captain held by pirates off Somalia, has been freed,
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Posted on 04/12/2009 10:25:08 AM PDT by Ladycalif

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To: Wissa

That still leaves the timing out of the plan. On the other hand if like good scouts they were lurking close by waiting for an opportunity that came and that they then took advantage of then you could say it was planned in a Shawnee sort of way. As any combat vet will tell you, all plans go out the window at first contact and training takes over.


401 posted on 04/12/2009 11:30:34 AM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: holyscroller

Ooops the one on the Bainbridge was there for negociations.


402 posted on 04/12/2009 11:31:07 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Chgogal

I just heard one of the crew say that was the Captain’s plan all along ~ to jump off the lifeboat when/if the opportunity presented itself.


403 posted on 04/12/2009 11:31:10 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: GreatDaggar

Obama did NOTHING


404 posted on 04/12/2009 11:31:11 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: dirtboy
The point is, so what if it took five days? We got the ideal outcome

Taking us 5 days is a big deal for Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Iran, North Korea and host of other enemies even if we have achieved our goal at the end. They have been greatly emboldened by this and the perception will not change because they know now that Obama is the weakest President ever which will encourage them to do a lot of harm to us.

405 posted on 04/12/2009 11:31:42 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Riley

Good point........Hearing that the hostage dived out of the rigid raft again and the event occured. My guess was SEALS were with in arms length of the raft when all this occured.....just a guess of course.


406 posted on 04/12/2009 11:31:43 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: dirtboy

Think anybody in Eyl is getting a little nervous? :-)


407 posted on 04/12/2009 11:31:53 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: navysealdad; SE Mom; Bahbah; rodguy911; Ladycalif; All

Barbara Starr reporting that Capt. Phillips
was on the Bainbridge, then choppered to the
US ship Boxer and is not resting comfortably,
having had a medical checkup (he’s uninjured)
and spoken with his family.

Praise God and our awesome military!


408 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:11 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: dirtboy
"Bush did the same in Afghanistan"

Bush also let the Chinese hold our EP-3 spy plane and interrogate it's 24 crew members for 10 days before apologizing to the Chinese.

409 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:18 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Syncro

“The complete details of the rescue should not be revealed...”

That is correct, of course.
However, given the number of muslims and socialists in and around the government, it is most likely complete details will be quickly available to the bad guys - and the U.S. public will be the last to know.


410 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:32 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Socialism is inconsistent with the Constitution and is one of the "domestic enemies".)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Because I am hearing impaired I can read lips fairly good, very colorful language regarding Obamas ineptitude.


411 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:32 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: jveritas
That is not how Al Qaeda, Taliban, Iran, and the North Koreans will view it and it is all about perception. Make no doubt about it, these enemies have been greatly emboldened and they are going to cause a lot of harm because of this perception of weakness.

I disagree. I was in favor of taking action sooner, but in this case the captain was rescued, the bad guys are dead (except for one we can get intel from), and we did it at a time of our choosing. The ones attacking us got nothing out of it.

Seems hard for somebody planning to attack us to see a good outcome if thats the results they can expect.

412 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:35 AM PDT by Wissa (I despise the liberal media.)
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To: Kansas58

Hopefully MAERSK will employ a couple of mercenaries to be on board in these waters. Some good things could come from this.


413 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:38 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Kansas58
Take LOTS of hostages, and never attack a boat unless you can HOLD the boat!”

Which means it is time to have armed men on the ships. Plus, I doubt any more American-flagged ships are gonna be pirated after this. Pirates aren't al Qaeda types seeking to be martyrs. They are criminals of opportunity who want to live to enjoy their ransom money.

414 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Kansas58

Exactly. The Captain gave the Navy an opportunity and the Navy took advantage of it. The truth is that negotiations failed.


415 posted on 04/12/2009 11:32:54 AM PDT by tobyhill ("Hope and Change" is so overrated!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Really? What did you hear him say before the cutoff?


416 posted on 04/12/2009 11:33:04 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Kansas58
Yes he DID, he ordered a pizza, bought a dog, visited with friends in Georgetown last night and said nothing about pirates when asked by the media....It was all part of the plan to make pirates think he had no plan:)
417 posted on 04/12/2009 11:33:25 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Syncro
Obama is the man and did a great job.

Obama did not do a great job. However, our military presented him with options and he had the brass and the brains to select the right option.

It shows us that Obama is no Jimmy Carter and that is a Victory for America.

418 posted on 04/12/2009 11:33:37 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Ladycalif

Will Obama now apologize to the Muslims for the arrogant actions taken by our US Navy SEALS?


419 posted on 04/12/2009 11:33:39 AM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: Wissa

My speculation is that when he jumped they lit it up, either from helos circling nearby, or from the gatlings on the Bainbridge.


420 posted on 04/12/2009 11:33:41 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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