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(Australian) Defence plan rejects US strategy
The Australian ^ | April 13, 2009 | Cameron Stewart and Patrick Walters

Posted on 04/12/2009 8:48:47 AM PDT by Dundee

AUSTRALIA'S military planners have rejected the view of the US's top defence official by recommending a powerful boost to conventional naval and air forces to combat China's sustained arms build-up.

US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has argued that future challenges are most likely to comprise unconventional non-state conflicts, such as Afghanistan, rather than conventional warfare.

But Australia's defence white paper, due to be released by the end of the month, is believed to reject the thrust of his arguments by focusing on the need to plan for conventional conflict and to commit more than $100 billion to new ships, submarines and fighter jets.

This represents a defeat for Australia's intelligence assessment agencies, the Office of National Assessments and the Defence Intelligence Organisation, which embraced and touted Mr Gates's beliefs, arguing that Australia should move in the same direction as the US on this issue because the nation was more likely to be involved in unconventional conflicts rather than a formal war between nations.

However, they were opposed and eventually defeated by a group of senior Defence officials and also by army, navy and air force chiefs who argued that Australia's future defence force should be structured primarily for involvement in conventional warfare alongside allies such as the US.

...The new white paper is expected to foreshadow a substantial boost in naval power, including plans for new frigates, air warfare destroyers and 12 new generation submarines to replace the Collins Class fleet from 2025...

However a group of senior Defence officials led by deputy secretary Mike Pezzullo, the key drafter of the white paper, adopted a more hawkish view on China. They argued that Australia could not take the risk that China would remain a benign military power.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; bhochina; chinesemilitary

1 posted on 04/12/2009 8:48:47 AM PDT by Dundee
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To: Dundee

Why, it’s almost as if they don’t believe we can protect them from the Chinese! I wonder where they got THAT idea?


2 posted on 04/12/2009 8:50:54 AM PDT by Mountain Troll (Barak Obama - just another affirmative action government hire living in public housing)
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To: Dundee
Close the Gate on Gates He needs to leave.
3 posted on 04/12/2009 8:51:38 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Mountain Troll
Why, it’s almost as if they don’t believe we can protect them from the Chinese!

Oh they believe we can. What's important is that they believe we won't.

L

4 posted on 04/12/2009 8:52:23 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Mountain Troll

The ONLY thing that 0 is interested in protecting is himself.


5 posted on 04/12/2009 9:01:28 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Dundee

I’m moving to Australia.


6 posted on 04/12/2009 9:02:52 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Cheetahcat

just seen him say that obama bowing to the Saudi king is a non story and then Liz trotta said well if that is a non story why are the media covering a puppy.

This is pathetic I just clicked on to MSNBC for the first time in about two years and they had two women facing each other talking about the type of dog, how much it costs and what problems could this cause

my wife and I just looked at each other and said what the hell is this, this is supposed to be a news channel for crying pout loud.


7 posted on 04/12/2009 9:04:27 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Dundee

What a surprise!


8 posted on 04/12/2009 9:06:23 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year military veteran of Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: Lurker

We cannot even protect our US flagged ships against sand monkey’s.


9 posted on 04/12/2009 9:07:40 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year military veteran of Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: Dundee

phony decrease our military and spending

china Russia, Iran Korea and chavez is building theirs up

phony increase welfare and abortion spending instead

the French and Russians storm the pirate ships

phony calls the FBI to make a case and has not said anything about this, but has a cook to make pizza fly nearly a 1,000 MILES making pollution and us paying for it
He is getting ready to greet homos and cross dressers playing families for the egg hunt at the white house

ASTOUNDING and to think that phony got a free pass when he thought Austrian was a language, imagine Bush saying that or bowing


10 posted on 04/12/2009 9:08:05 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Mountain Troll

The Aussies are showing GOOD judgemment here!


11 posted on 04/12/2009 9:16:32 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: manc
“just seen him say that obama bowing to the Saudi king is a non story and then Liz trotta said well if that is a non story why are the media covering a puppy.

This is pathetic I just clicked on to MSNBC for the first time in about two years and they had two women facing each other talking about the type of dog, how much it costs and what problems could this cause

my wife and I just looked at each other and said what the hell is this, this is supposed to be a news channel for crying pout loud”

It is getting worse by the minute I can not even eat if the news is on.The pretending The Pandering The whole thing is Pathetic and needs to stop.

12 posted on 04/12/2009 9:16:41 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat; manc

Could either of you imagine how bad he’d be polling know if the press wasn’t actively covering for him?


13 posted on 04/12/2009 9:21:32 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Red Dog #1

EXACTLY

sorry for the rant but this is out of frustration at the media

If the media actually did their job instead of covering for him his numbers would be in the 30’s

Infact he would have never got elected in the first place.

Now after the Euro trip which was awful and showed that neither he or his wife had any class, grace or a clue .
Austrian being a language he thought
to his bowing
to his first address to muslims
to his first call to a muslim
to his appeasement to our enemies
to him saying sorry for us
infact the list is endless and yet the GOP never make an issue of any of this and the media just go about covering for him

seriously, we’re right wing and conservative but even a blind man can see that this fool and his wife are lazy, clueless and are way too deep for this job, infact what on earth is she doing as the first lady,
Laura was doing charity work etc
She’s doing nothing right now but swanning around on marine one, air force one and going through her i-pod on a Wednesday night

I have more disdain for the media like MSNBC,NBC CNN than I have for anything right now

If the people were informed then obama would be in big trouble instead it is up to us to get the message out and that is sad

I heard MSNBC was making fun of the parties and someone else said they are not worth covering , no news here they said

no but a puppy is news for crying our loud while we have a hostage , terrorist , economic problems


14 posted on 04/12/2009 9:28:22 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Red Dog #1
“Could either of you imagine how bad he’d be polling know if the press wasn’t actively covering for him?”

He would break the record and be in single digits, I do not think any of his voting mass can read so that leaves it up to the Useful Idiots in the Media

15 posted on 04/12/2009 9:37:23 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Dundee
US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has argued that future challenges are most likely to comprise unconventional non-state conflicts, such as Afghanistan, rather than conventional warfare.

A classic case of a fool preparing to fight another war like the last one.

Gates is going to get the cream of the U.S. warrior caste bogged down in endless counterinsurgency and nation-building in failed states, while major powers race past us in their capabilities.

16 posted on 04/12/2009 9:38:17 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: Dundee

Gates and his boss are fools.


17 posted on 04/12/2009 10:11:08 AM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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To: manc
“I have more disdain for the media like MSNBC,NBC CNN than I have for anything right now”

Your disdain for the MSM is extremely well justified, but the root of leftist evil starts in our “educational industrial complex”.

18 posted on 04/12/2009 10:14:12 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Dundee

You Aussies are on your own, Zero has already surrendered to the Chinese and the Islamisists.


19 posted on 04/12/2009 11:38:22 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Welcome to the Obama-Democrat Depression.)
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