Posted on 04/11/2009 8:18:21 AM PDT by reaganaut1
Edited on 04/11/2009 8:49:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
As long as we have a gutless liberal administration these attacks will continue. We need to napalm all Somalia ports and sink every vessel leaving them. Then when we catch them in the act we hang them from the yardarm, no quarter.
Yeah, “Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up” would have that onerous “shovelling” part eliminated, too!
Rather than guns, Obama proposed each ships crew should:
1) Attend seminars that promote multiculuralism
2) Carry Extra copies of the Koran
3) UN pamphlets on mediating disputes
4) Contain lyrics to kumbaya
5) Understand that the pirates are actually victims and are being exploiting by capitalism
6) Any action taken against the pirates will be considered RACIST”
The above would be a lot funnier if it were a joke......
Thats where the armory would come into play. In port or non-international waters, the arms could be locked up. The ship itself is always deemed sovereign US territory, no matter where it is located.
THIS IS BLACKBEARD THE PIRATE AFTER
COULD RACE, COLOR OR RELIGION BE PLAYING A ROLE IN THE CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR TOWARD THE POOR, DESPERATE, MISUNDERSTOOD MUSLIM SOMALI PIRATES??
PERISH THE THOUGHT!!
Vulcan.
Give each guy on the ship this weapon and that should take care of this problem.
Automatic shotgun and grenade launcher, 32 round drum, it would sink their boats. Forget the water hoses, no one is walking in to this fire power.
AA-12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c
That was a lot of words to say that US law is improperly hampering the actions of US citizens. In the old days, merchant ships were most certainly armed. How then is it now not a practical answer?
and even if you would get this you would not be allow you to enter forreign ports with the same weapons. so how do you trade for example lets say china if they don´t allow your ships into their ports because of this.
Oh, darn, I'd had to see trade with China impeded. We might have to start hiring people for jobs again that are worth having.
BO probably will not let them do that. Those are his sand monkey buddy’s.
I also wonder how responsible he would be, or if the owner of the boat is held responsible. He is just the captain and an employee....
That was a lot of words to say that US law is improperly hampering the actions of US citizens. In the old days, merchant ships were most certainly armed. How then is it now not a practical answer?
you said: Oh, darn, I’d had to see trade with China impeded. We might have to start hiring people for jobs again that are worth having.
A fire hose is good for boats right along side out to maybe one hundred feet. What do you do about the boat with the RPG gunner when they stand off at several hundred yards and offer to poke a hole in you at the water line?.
Your arguments against arming a "pick-up" crew of assorted nasties is well taken. Small arms are problematical in effectiveness for people insufficient training. So instead of arming the sailors, why not arm the ship?
I would propose to place one or two ISO standard shipping containers with a roll up door similar to those corrugated fire doors in the seaward side of the container, just above deck level on both sides of the deck. I would load each container with a 25 or 30mm chaingun. These automatic cannon can fire single shots, low rate auto fire at 100 rpm, and 200 rpm at high rate. They allow you to switch from high explosive to incendiary rounds with the flip of a switch. The best part is that they are capable of remote control from the bridge thus keeping the crew away from mischief.
The solution I propose would add one or possibly two additional bridge personnel as ordnance officers and maybe not even that if you could use the port & starboard lookouts as remote gunners. The containers would be modular allowing you to swap out your ordnance with minimum fuss and bother for maintenance and repair and perhaps even reload of the container mounted magazines.
Regards,
GtG
what is the coastal range of all these anti gun countries...???
why not simply run small escort craft alongside the cargo ships up to the 'border', or simply offload arms and have long range cover from this perimeter ???
Im sure its a complicated situation for my simple thought...but I cant see any sane sailor floating into this hijack zone unarmed...you couldnt pay me enough...
Well, he’s 73 and he’s been doing this since he was about 24( got out of the Navy), and so far so good. He took a year or two off as a car salesman back during the time they had a luxury tax on boats, but other than that, he’s been a yacht captain.
Sounds like it’s time for another unbiased ABC News Gun Special with Diane Sawyer.
They can call it “If I Only Had a Battleship”.
We need to be practical here. The boat owners are not going to pay for guards on board and the sailors are not competent to handle and maintain weapons.
Either the captain or first mate would be sufficient to determine the armed resistance. But complicated weapons that have to be maintained in a salty environment would really be problematic. The boat owners are not going to give up any cargo space to weapons.
Sure if the pirates want to use RPG's they will, but it's bad for business to disable or destroy a ship, no payday. Piracy is a business.
Fire hoses can discharge 2,000 GPM easily 300 feet and fill one of those skiffs. What about a smoke screen?
We have evidence that a bunch of semi-savage Somali pirates are able to maintain and use weapons in that environment.
Well, making the shipping companies pay for their own protection certainly makes better sense than making the American taxpayer pay for a problem that the U.S. never created in the first place.
The U.S. hasnt been paying ransoms like the other shipping companies and the countries that they are from, have been doing for years. They are the ones who have created this mess in the first place.
Theres no way the American taxpayer should have to pay for our military to take care of problems created by other countries and their shipping companies. No more *bailouts* and *especially* not for other countries and foreign companies...
So, sure..., make the companies take care of themselves...
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