Posted on 04/10/2009 9:47:29 AM PDT by kellynla
WASHINGTON -- It's no longer possible to mince words, or pretend we didn't know. The International Committee of the Red Cross concluded in a secret report that the Bush administration's so-called "enhanced" interrogation methods, used on "high-value" terrorism suspects, plainly constituted torture. The time for euphemisms is over and the time for accountability has arrived.
The Red Cross report -- published this week in its entirety for the first time by The New York Review of Books -- is a stunning account of how the Bush administration spat on our laws, traditions and ideals. I realize that many Americans, given the scope of the economic crisis and the ambitions of the new administration, would rather look forward than revisit the past. The business of torture, however, is too unspeakable to be left unfinished.
After years of stonewalling, the Bush administration in October 2006 allowed the Red Cross to interview 14 Guantanamo detainees who had previously been held and interrogated in the CIA's secret prisons. Among them were several men who almost certainly played major roles in planning and executing the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, including Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshib. Others, such as Abu Zubaydah, now seem to have had less involvement in the attacks than once believed.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
"torture?" I guess Little Eugene was never "dunked" in the water when he was a child...
"Ten of the detainees said they were forced to stand in an excruciatingly painful position for days at a time, with their hands chained to a bar above their heads...Nine of the men said they were subjected to daily beatings in the first weeks of their detention..."
And ALL of these prisoners were telling "the truth, the whole truth, so help me Allah!" yea...right!
shezzzzzzzzzz...Eugene needs to enlist in the military and volunteer for combat duty so he find out what the hell is going on in Iraq & Afghanistan!
Semper Fi, Kelly
Anyone that gives the Red Cross a dime, should know they are helping to fund this nonsense. My past respect for the Red Cross has been destroyed since 09/11.
The Salvation Army is the best bet...
I prefer to call them “Jack Bauer hotels.”
Jeez, I wonder if they would have gotten up in arms over this stuff had this been taking place during World War II. I’m sure glad we didn’t waterboard any German or Japanese prisoners in order to get them to tell what they knew. Hell, it would have even been worth it to lose the war, as long as we were able to say we took the “moral” high road. The moonbats, traitors, and cowards that fret about this stuff are suicidal and are a waste of food and air.
Notice that the ‘victims’ are still around to make these statements, and have no physical or observable mental problems due to the ‘severe torture’.
Anyone who elevates these people’s treatment to torture, devalues what true torture is. They have been held at club Gitmo, and are trying to make it sound like a WWII German death camp.
This angers me considerably.
Fox News reporter volunteers:
Video: Steve Harrigan gets waterboarded on Fox
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/
I don’t have a problem with torture....someone told me that a boot-induced 3,000 foot swan dive out of a UH1E encourages the remaining passengers to talk and talk and talk....just sayin’.
I posted the New York Review of Books article here some weeks ago.
I read the article carefully.
None of the prisoners suffered permanent physical injury.
None suffered a broken bone.
None were mutilated.
None were threatened with death.
None had their families threatened.
Was the treatment harsh and unpleasant? Yes.
Was it torture? No.
Besides,,, didn’t we find a training manual telling prisoners what to say? If the manual at all jibes with what these vermin are spewing?? Screw them and the red cross too!
The Red Cross should demand that the USA pay full fees for Jenny Craig for the shocking allowance of this event. Obesity is becoming a world wide problem. And the USA bears full responsibility for this occurrence at gitmo.
/sarcasm and feigned outrage
I just came back from the barber shop, where one of the barbers told me he found out from a sailor what’s going on over there. The sailor told the barber he came upon a town where they were having a public trial. One man had his arm cut off and several women had there genitals mutilated to the cheers of an approving crowd.
Define : torture
In case you may have forgotten THIS is what torture looks like: 
Anything else is just us defending ourselves.... if that's OK with you.
They hack reporters heads off on camera, throw wheel chair bound civilians off cruise ships, slaughter Israeli athletes in their sleep, stone teenage girls to death for having been raped. Yeah, I could lose sleep over allegations that they were tortured.
“The business of torture, however, is too unspeakable to be left unfinished.”
Maybe so, but so were the failures that led to 9/11, so are excuses looking for “ruling legal authority” that lead to the deaths of innocents or unnecessary deaths of our troops.
In war, bad things happen, that’s why it’s called war.
We need make no excuses for insisting on protecting our survival, our troops or our citizens, ahead of simply being nice and kind to our enemies.
Whatever it takes, works for me.
AND MORE!
Yet our President was constantly framed as a liar.
Asinine and evil.
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