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1 posted on 04/08/2009 6:28:06 PM PDT by tsmith130
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How about worldwide action to end the scourge of Obama and Hillary?


88 posted on 04/08/2009 7:45:21 PM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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Now the appeasement can begin!

Obama is such a p***y


91 posted on 04/08/2009 7:49:40 PM PDT by UTCBSN (Welcome to America, Comrades. I think you'll like what Obama has done here.)
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AFter 9/11 it was self-evident that the events required that we take the fight to the enemy. Bush did and so we have been safe at home ever since. It now is obvious we need to take this fight to the enemy as well. These "pirates" have bases. They are well-known. It is time to go in and scour the wretched sh*t-strewn beaches and coves of Somalia, exterminate these cockroaches. Set up an inland cordon sanitaire and move toward the coast, eliminating every moslem rat-bastard who raises so much as a whimper. Then, sink all their boats.
96 posted on 04/08/2009 7:54:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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“We are deeply concerned and we are following it very closely,” Clinton said.


A fleet Chinese Nuclear Subs could wash up on the shores of San Francisco and she’d probably say the same thing.


105 posted on 04/08/2009 8:15:24 PM PDT by eaglestar
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We need to send in an entire fleet and show these pirates who’s boss


111 posted on 04/08/2009 8:26:32 PM PDT by myaccount2009
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Hmmm. Title indicates that a naval vessel has arrived on the scene than proceeds to offer no evidence that this is the case.


115 posted on 04/08/2009 8:44:31 PM PDT by keat
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It is unclear, however, how the standoff will end, given that Western countries in the past have faced legal difficulties in pursuing such pirates in international waters.

What "legal difficulties". Piracy has always been a violation of international law. It doesn't matter who the pirates are, what nation they are from (or protects them!). Warships of all nations are obliged to go after pirates.

120 posted on 04/08/2009 9:01:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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["All the crew members are trained in security detail in how to deal with piracy," Maersk CEO John Reinhart told reporters. "As merchant vessels we do not carry arms. We have ways to push back, but we do not carry arms."]

Herein lies the essence of the problem. Unarmed by idiotic policy, they are sitting ducks.

"We have ways to push back, but we do not carry arms..."

They are bringing clubs to gunfights. What idiot is responsible for such an absurd policy?

124 posted on 04/08/2009 9:17:22 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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A slight update to an old saying, which originated in an earlier confrontation with Muslim pirates:

"Trillions For Defense, Not One Cent for Tribute"

Of course Obama would turn that around.

126 posted on 04/08/2009 9:22:44 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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I was happy to see that three pirates got tossed overboard already.

Too bad there was no news on their condition, like that they were shark bait.


127 posted on 04/08/2009 9:23:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Exactly why the U.S.M.C. was formed...
a little issue of Barbary Pirates...
who were? anyone? anyone? Ferris?

“MUSLIMS!”

Correctomundo!

the more things change...the more they stay the same...

140 posted on 04/08/2009 9:46:23 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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It reminds me of the "Free Credit Report" pirate ads on TV...

"Free Pirate Report Dot Com
don't steal our ships
or you'll be hit
with an atom bommmmmb...
We monitor our shipping
and send Navy alerts
so you don't end up hijacked
by Somalis in T-shirts..."

(Not valid under Dem administrations)

Cheers!

157 posted on 04/08/2009 10:44:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Wednesday for world action to "end the scourge of piracy" as U.S. warships raced to confront the pirates.

How bout this, shoot the bastards and end it? Ever thought of that Ms Xlinton?

184 posted on 04/09/2009 5:44:05 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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The shipping company can pay the ransom and get the Captain out of harms way.

After that, what happens to these Pirates isn't any of their business.

USA!

sw

190 posted on 04/09/2009 6:06:46 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ("Never give in, Never give in, Never give in" Winston Churchill)
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“We are deeply concerned and we are following it very closely,” Clinton said.

Well, I’d hope so Hillary. It is time to get pissed!

See, what Obama’s show my weakness apology tour has reaped? Bowing at the feet of a Muslim! Calling Americans arrogant! Good Grief!


209 posted on 04/09/2009 7:07:04 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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Obama’s reaction to this will be very telling...
Will he once again, side with the Muslims?


232 posted on 04/09/2009 8:19:19 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Oh boy.....Hostage Negotiators are now on site trying to resolve this. This is so weak.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090409/ap_on_re_af/piracy


242 posted on 04/09/2009 8:53:32 AM PDT by NCBraveheart (My inner child is a mean little SOB)
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First of all, ANY nuke, even a pony bomb, is overkill in the extreme in this case. Special Weapons are just that, special. There is absolutely NOTHING in Somalia that rates one of these.

Second, an Arleigh Burke class DDG is kind of a mismatch, too. They were designed as state of the art Anti-missile, Anti-air and Anti-submarine carrier escorts. Same or even more so for the Tico-class cruisers. The Bainbridge's single 5in 62 mm gun is considerably more than needed under these circumstances.

BTW; the new RIM 162 ESSM, replacing the RIM 66 SM-2, has a bigger warhead, flies better, and best of all can be 4-packed into a single Mk. 41 Vertical Launch System. Arliegh Burkes have 90 cells, you do the math. (Saving room for SM-2's for ASuW, Tomahawks for this and that, and a few SM-3's to pick off the odd ballistic missile. And maybe a few RUM-139 ASROC's for the occasional submarine. All in all, one hell of a ship, for which we have to thank the finest president in the 20th century, Ronald Reagan.

Now, for the pirates at sea I think the LCS (Littoral Combat Ship) armed with as someone suggested, a navalized Bushmaster 25mm would be ideal. Martin Marietta's LCS-1 Freedom however, is armed with a Mk 110 57 mm gun. Not as much ammo room as 25mm, but still. On the other hand, the General Dynamics version, LCS-2 Independance, armed with the proven Bofors 57mm gun has room for mission modules, one of which could be a nice Bushmaster with associated ammo in one neat box the size of a standard container. Gotta have more room for ammo than a Bradley, or a Stryker, don't you think? In spite of the New York Times article poo-pooing the concept, Somali pirates seem tailor-made to show the use of these ships.

Last, despite my being a Navy guy, I think the proper way to handle these guys would be something like Hellfire armed Predators loitering around that area, following any interesting 'fishing boats' and popping them if they try to go alongside any American Flagged merchant ships. Then, backtracking by satellite to wherever these clowns came from and sending another Hellfire through the front door. Repeat as necessary until they figure out that this is a bad idea. Offer same function to other national flagged shipping, for a nominal price. Current deficit defining level considered 'nominal'. 5% of value of ship & cargo seems about right. For our friends. Cost-Plus for the French, Germans, Chinese, and such.

Just a thought....

244 posted on 04/09/2009 9:35:36 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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