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Obama looks at climate engineering
ap ^ | 4/8/09 | Seth Borenstein

Posted on 04/08/2009 9:55:04 AM PDT by cdchik123

WASHINGTON (AP) — The president's new science adviser said Wednesday that global warming is so dire, the Obama administration is discussing radical technologies to cool Earth's air.

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To: cdchik123

So, fireplaces are OK again ?


81 posted on 04/08/2009 2:35:15 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: jessduntno
One such extreme option includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays.”

I think we had this once- remember all those polluting smokestacks ? The ones that shot particulates high into the atmosphere and were thought to cause acid rain ? They were all regulated out of existance.

82 posted on 04/08/2009 2:37:08 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: cdchik123

Just my humble opinion that people should not allow a bunch of idiot politicians to tamper with the atmosphere or climate on a global scale.


83 posted on 04/08/2009 2:38:17 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: cdchik123

I think they did this on General Hospital about 30 years ago.


84 posted on 04/08/2009 2:39:25 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: redangus
Just remove the scrubbers from the thousands of little volcanoes located all across the country more commonly known as coal powered power plants and industrial plants. Back to the 50s & 60’s problem solved. You realize all this GW foolishness started about 10 years after we mandated that the scrubbers be installed. Unintended consequences?

You are right.

85 posted on 04/08/2009 2:41:28 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Williams

Global warming is a hoax. Without greenhouse gases the earth would be too cold for humans. A major greenhouse gas is WATER VAPOR. Carbon dioxide is present in the atmosphere in only trace amounts — currently about 380 parts per million. The recent trend is global cooling, not warming. The whole cap & trade plan is idiocy.

Obama is a liar. He says he wants to save the economy, but cap & trade, plus union check cards, plus $1 trillion new taxes on “the rich” are all designed to slow economic growth and kill at least a million jobs.

By letting the Bush tax cuts expire, taxes on capital gains and dividends will skyrocket. This will discourage savings and investment. Obama’s plan to limit mortgage interest deductions will help keep home prices depressed.

Obama thinks federal spending will cure the economy, but it will do just the opposite. It will result in inflation due to devaluation of the dollar, lower GDP, higher tax rates, but lower total tax revenue (due to reduced GDP). No economy can be sustained based on government spending. It takes free enterprise not burdened by huge tax rates and government regulations.

Cap and trade will cause businesses to leave the U.S., as will union check cards and higher personal income taxes. Unemployment will balloon to 15% if Obama’s agenda is enacted.

Throw in Obama’s socialized medicine, and the deficits will be $1 trillion a year for the next ten years, and that estimate does not even take into consideration the unfunded liabilities of Socialist Security.

Perhaps Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing, or perhaps he knows exactly what he’s doing: Wrecking America. Just as in the Great Depression, when FDR’s policies extended the crisis for ten years, Obama’s policies will make our economy even worse than it is today.


86 posted on 04/08/2009 2:45:29 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: cdchik123

“One such extreme option includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays”

Keep gas cheap and give Fed rebates for buying large trucks and SUVs. That oughta do it.

(or cause a major volcano to blow it’s lid)


87 posted on 04/08/2009 2:48:36 PM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: cdchik123

I`m believing more and more that 2012 will be the end of the world because Bammy will have things so screwed up by then.


88 posted on 04/08/2009 2:50:29 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: KosmicKitty

We hit a record low for the airport in Austin, TX. (28) Never in April had it been below 30 degrees.


89 posted on 04/08/2009 2:50:41 PM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: cdchik123
Snowed here in SW Pennsylvania last night. Lots of car wrecks for the morning commute because of black ice. All the while the talking heads on the local 3 news stations tell us about the warming earth and climate change with a straight face. Absolute fools,educated beyond their intelligence,one and all!
90 posted on 04/08/2009 2:54:07 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (The ground at Arlington is moving & shaking.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
These people are loons.

I think they're desperate. More and more scientists and opinion-makers are determining this is a scam, and that cannot be allowed to continue because the current Democrat Party is amost entirely based upon the concept of the noble and honest Al Gore being cheated by the eeeevil George Bush. If Al is revealed to have been a scam artist -- or even just an idiot -- their whole house of cards comes a'tumblin' down.

Not to mention the fact that a whole lot of liberal researchers and manufacturers have bet everything on the public being brainwashed into thinking "global warming" is actually occuring.

91 posted on 04/08/2009 2:56:22 PM PDT by JennysCool (Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action - Ian Fleming)
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To: JennysCool

Greenhouse gases are both natural and essential, acting as a thermostat for the earth. If we did not have them, the earth would be too cold for humans to survive. The primary greenhouse gas is water vapor. Carbon dioxide, which occurs both naturally and from man’s “inventions”, is only present in the atmosphere in trace amounts, the most recent estimate being about 380 parts per million. And by the way, CO2 is essential for plant growth on earth.
http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/2009/01/co2-is-life.html

No one really knows the actual impact of human activities. The earth’s climate is poorly understood, even by the “experts”. Nor does anyone understand exactly how carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and other gases interact with abundant worldwide precipitation, or what the net effect is on the earth’s climate. We are still unable to make near term weather predictions, such as where a hurricane will land in the next 48 hours.

It is known that cyclical changes in the activity of the sun have affected temperatures on earth for millions of years. The book to read is “Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years”, by Fred Singer and Dennis Avery. Another good source of objective facts is “Climate Confusion - How Global Warming Hysteria Leads to Bad Science, Pandering Politicians and Misguided Policies That Hurt the Poor,” by Roy W. Spencer.

The obsession with man-made global warming is like a pagan religion, with people brain-washed into believing that their cars, fireplaces, and electric power plants are the primary causes of climate change. Natural events on earth and changes in the sun are vastly more powerful than human activities.

Obama’s plans for cap & trade and other idiotic schemes will not change the climate, but they will kill our economy.


92 posted on 04/08/2009 3:08:46 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: cdchik123

35 degrees here in Wisconsin today.

Besides, if they are so worried about hot air-why don’t they all shut their stupid mouths?


93 posted on 04/08/2009 3:10:46 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: tpmintx
What is the most effective tool for expelling heat from the surface of the planet...

First and easiest solution: Get rid of Algore and all the hot-air those liberal politicians expel in Washington.

94 posted on 04/08/2009 3:16:08 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: EggsAckley

So am I. I’d like to feel a little more of this global warming.


95 posted on 04/08/2009 3:18:33 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: pleikumud

“CO2 for different people has different attractions. After all, what is it? - it’s not a pollutant, it’s a product of every living creature’s breathing, it’s the product of all plant respiration, it is essential for plant life and photosynthesis, it’s a product of all industrial burning, it’s a product of driving – I mean, if you ever wanted a leverage point to control everything from exhalation to driving, this would be a dream. So it has a kind of fundamental attractiveness to bureaucratic mentality.” - Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, MIT

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not pollution and Global Warming has nothing to do with pollution. The average person has been misled and is confused about what the current Global Warming debate is about, greenhouse gases. None of which has anything to do with air pollution. People are confusing Smog, Carbon Monoxide (CO) and the pollutants in car exhaust with the life supporting, essential trace gas in our atmosphere, Carbon Dioxide (CO2). Pollution is already regulated under the Clean Air Act and regulating Carbon Dioxide (CO2) will do absolutely nothing to make the air you breath “cleaner”. Regulating Carbon Dioxide (CO2) emissions through either ‘Carbon Taxes’ or ‘Cap and Trade’ policies will cause energy prices (electricity, gasoline, diesel fuel, propane, heating oil ect...) to skyrocket.


96 posted on 04/08/2009 3:28:40 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: cdchik123

They’ve got to do something to keep the sheeple from seeing that the earth is getting colder instead of warmer. Geoengineering to the rescue. Then they save face in not having to explain why all their settled science is a bunch of science-fiction.


97 posted on 04/08/2009 4:21:29 PM PDT by home+s cool (home's cool)
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To: Zathras
How about we eliminate flights of Air Force 1 and Air Pelosi.

Instead, how about they play chicken?

Let's see who gives first!

98 posted on 04/08/2009 4:50:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I have a feeling that if we had a camera in the White House during meetings, it would look exactly like TMZ.


99 posted on 04/08/2009 4:52:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: cdchik123

Meanwhile, it’s still snowing spring here. What’s down is up, what’s up is down.


100 posted on 04/08/2009 4:56:32 PM PDT by JavaJumpy
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