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The Catholic identity crisis
New York Daily News ^ | Wednesday, April 8th 2009 | S.E. Cupp

Posted on 04/08/2009 6:56:09 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: Albion Wilde

you’re right about those radical feminists - of course, when they’re preaching the homily in the Rochester Diocese, it’s usually about “social justice”. You know - how important it is to boycott Walmart and Target.

So I kindof lumped them into the social justice crowd.


41 posted on 04/08/2009 12:13:41 PM PDT by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: Scotswife

It’s happening everywhere. I’m a former “souper” (Protestant) who had to leave my church because of its pro-homosexual drift. I live in an “economic development zone” in a state that tried to build 3 new major cities, throwing all kinds of tax breaks to developers (with mixed results). I was stupid enough not to realize how difficult it would be, despite the amenities for shopping and hiking, that the nearest church would be seven miles away. Typical of exurban developments around the country, while the suburbs are too expensive and the cities are overrun with Democrat giveaway programs and street criminals who have more rights than property owners and crime victims. God, help us.


42 posted on 04/08/2009 1:30:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("He alone who owns the youth owns the future." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: chuckles
If the church doesn't start to draw a BRIGHT, CLEAR, line, and back it up with open discipline, there will be NO change. Catholics could stop abortion, stop gay marriage, and basically save America's culture, if they would just stand up and defend the faith. But if the church's GOVERNMENT won't stand up to open rebellion in it's ranks, we stay on the road to hell, and the church will suffer the same fate as the other churches with women pastors, gay pastors, abortion acceptance, etc.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Shout it from the rooftops!

I am known as a notorious anti-Catholic here on FR, but if American Roman Catholics voted their theology then abortion, homosexuality . . . none of these things would be an issue at all and we'd all be arguing about economics.

And ironically, "anti-Catholic" as I am, I am well aware of the fact that the Catholic Church could save this country if it only enforced its doctrines. And then wouldn't you like to see the look on my face?

43 posted on 04/08/2009 2:04:29 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi be`etzem hayom hazeh hotzi' HaShem 'et-Benei Yisra'el me'Eretz Mitzrayim `al-tziv'otam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Well, this is basically the same with any religion. We have pew sitters and believers in every denomination. It is the governments of the churches that is showing “tolerance” that seems to be the problem. The Biblical reference to this phenomenon is found in Corinthians.

They had a sin problem and were "proud" that they were tolerant of it. Paul let them know that the proper response was to confront them, and then discipline them. Why can't the clergy be held to the same standard prescribed by Paul in the Bible? It is, in fact, their JOB to follow the teachings found in the Bible. If they are unable to follow the tenet's of the Bible, they should be removed. Would any denomination allow a pastor or priest to hold the view that Christ didn't actually rise from the grave? That is a basic fundamental tenet that is needed for salvation of the soul. If you cannot fathom Jesus overcoming death, then why bother with the rest of it? Ergo, you are not ALLOWED to disagree with that and remain in any leadership role in any Christian denomination. If we cannot agree that Sodom was destroyed for their sexual sin, and all life is a gift from God, how can one claim Christ if you are in rebellion to Him?

I'm sure there are thousands of differences between Christian denominations that we could argue the Biblical reference to, but there are some that are uniquely Christian and should be absolute. Baby murder IS ONE of them. If you think you can kill God's gift to you and claim Christ, it's time for some Scripture reading or change to worshiping the moon god.

44 posted on 04/08/2009 2:31:58 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: presidio9

They were snake charmed.


45 posted on 04/08/2009 3:44:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: chuckles

The catholic church should take a page from Islam, they know what to do with heretics and apostates.


46 posted on 04/08/2009 4:14:28 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: presidio9
...and its president, the Rev. John Jenkins, has said he cannot foresee any reason to rescind it.

H'mmm. How about being de-frocked and ex-communicated for apostasy?

47 posted on 04/08/2009 5:07:35 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: chuckles

Good one. I’ll bet they don’t even tithe.


48 posted on 04/08/2009 5:53:47 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Antoninus

It’s a shame that most if not all schools that were founded by Protestant Christians or Catholics have gotten away from their founding principles.


49 posted on 04/08/2009 5:56:21 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My understanding of Mormonism is limited. I had the sense that their view on Lucifer was the same as our own. God created his, just as he did Jesus.


50 posted on 04/08/2009 7:47:27 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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