Saving Notre Dame: Mary Ann Glendon, Our Lady's "secret weapon"?

Renew America ^ | 04-06-09 | Tom O'Toole

[mlizzy]

"So do you think this is the photo Nancy Pelosi taped her head over to prove she saw the Pope?" my wife kidded me about this article's picture of Pope Benedict XVI and Mary Ann Glendon, former U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican and current Harvard law professor, not to mention this year's recipient of the University of Notre Dame's Laetare Medal, ND's highest award for Catholics. While her picture with the Pope is proof that Professor Glendon, dubbed "the pro-life feminist" by the secular press, was, unlike Pelosi (whom His Holiness resolutely refused to grant even the briefest photo-op to, lest it be construed as acceptance of the speaker's heretical Catholic stances and thus lead to scandal), in good standing with the Holy See, does that mean she will stand up for the Faith when she takes the stage almost immediately before Obama during next month's controversial commencement at Notre Dame?

[mosesdapoet]

The MSM coverage of this event will attempt to show Catholic’s are in disarray on the question of birth. While I can’t attend I’m tempted to suggest this

Because they won’t cover that protest,Target those camp followers press support vehicles which are comming to report on their messia when he shows up on campus and shower them with rotten garbage,and bags of liquid red paint but then I think better of it. So I do not suggest doing something like this.

[EyeGuy]

My experience was with VIDEO coverage on local news. Another Freeper indicated that FoxNews showed a smiling Pope greeting Pelosi. Now, this may have been archival footage, but that really doesn’t matter. In the absence of a refusal to meet with Pelosi, or an overt, public direction to abstain from taking Holy Communion, that image is ALL that most people are going to remember.

A picture showing a smiling Holy Father greeting Pelosi was, for some reason, pulled from this thread (Comment 10). This, too may have been from a prior meeting.

BUT AGAIN, my point has nothing to do with the devout, informed Catholics who are paying attention.

To the casual Catholics and the rest of the Christian world, Pelosi was seen in the mass media, as being greeted by the Pope and nothing overt was said regarding her staunch support of abortion.

Images, even if oudated, were allowed to trump any message of admonition.

There is much concern about the message that allowing Obama to speak at Notre Dame sends to the laity and perhaps the rest of the world regarding Catholicism. Logically, this is in the same vein.

[EyeGuy]

Do you really think anyone but the non-devout read articles from the Catholic New Agency?

Ask your casual Catholic friends or other Christians what they know about Pelosi’s visit with the Holy Father?

Ask them if they are aware of the Holy Father’s “strong rebuke”.

[EyeGuy]

non-devout = devout

[dangus]

The pope’s rebuke of Nancy Pelosi was covered by every major news source in America, as integral to the coverage of Nancy Pelosi’s visit. It’s time you admit you were wrong and get on with it.

Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE51H3VT20090218
CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/18/pope.pelosi/index.html
Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/pelosi-pope-meeting-minds/
CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02/18/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4809863.shtml
ABC: http://abcnews.go.com/International/WireStory?id=6903647&page=2
MSNBC/NBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29256800
AP http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2009Feb18/0,4670,EUVaticanUSPelosi,00.html
NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/us/19pelosi.html?ref=politics

[dangus]

>> Images, even if oudated, were allowed to trump any message of admonition. <<

So the pope’s fault, then, is that he has not the viciously anti-Christian American press posted the wrong pictures? If the pope refuses an audience with Speaker Pelosi, it doesn’t make the news at all. Instead, the pope created an opportunity to speak out to the entire world of the need for legislators to protect life.

[EyeGuy]

Conversations with co-workers, family and even fellow Knights of Columbus,regarding their understanding of Pelosi’s audience with the Holy Father, indicate that I was not “wrong”, your tidy little listing of new reports, nothwithstanding.

[EyeGuy]

“So the pope’s fault, then, is that he has not the viciously anti-Christian American press posted the wrong pictures?”

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Not his “fault”, but don’t you think that the Vatican should take into account the proclivities of the vile, anti-Catholic media?

To devout, engaged Catholics, hammering Pelosi publicly may seem like killing a gnat with a sledgehammer, but as I have stated repeatedly, the public at large, including the casual Catholic laity, apparently needs it plainly spelled out for them.

The huge Catholic support for Obama in the past election should make it quite clear that the message of what it means to be Catholic, is not getting across via such subtle measures as the private, closed-door rebuke of a pro-abortion “Catholic” American politician.

[SeafoodGumbo]

Why did you put me on a ping list I never asked to be on?

[dangus]

>> Conversations with co-workers, family and even fellow Knights of Columbus,regarding their understanding of Pelosi’s audience with the Holy Father, indicate that I was not “wrong”, your tidy little listing of new reports, nothwithstanding. <<

Right. I checked every major press outlet and every one of them quoted the pope’s denunciation of Pelosi. But everyone you know somehow missed that part, but everyone you know caught the old footage of Pelosi in line in DC at the White House, and everyone you know mistook it for her meeting with the pope.

Riiiiight. “Everyone I know” thinks that’s silly.

[EyeGuy]

Constructing straw men now.

Ridiculous.

[dangus]

Psst! Everyone I know knows that you’re the one being ridiculed.

[EyeGuy]

LOL. Maybe you can start a secret club with a neat decoder ring.

Ridiculed? Not by the incompetent, habitually off-topic likes of you.

[Running On Empty]

Pope Pius XI wrote his encyclical on Atheistic Communism in the 1930’s, in which he basically said that the press would be in collusion with marxist/socialist movements.

Interestingly enough, he also mentioned the coming impact of feminist movements on culture and family life.

The press is working hand-in-glove with this President.

As practicing Caholics we have very little to gain by constantly hammering away at the Pope. Let’s make the object of our concern the power of a press that is all to ready to hear and promote any dissatisfaction with the Pope, regardless of who is spreading it.

[Running On Empty]

I’m getting the picture now. The Pope is doesn’t know how to pope correctly and FReeper dangus is an “incompetent” Freeper.

That must explain everything about your position.

[Running On Empty]

“The Pope is doesn’t”.....= The Pope doesn’t.

Now I can be called “incompetent”.

[EyeGuy]

Fair enough, although I am most decidely not “hammering away” at the Pope.

I assume you are happy with the Pope’s approach. How would you suggest then, that the Church deal with the millions of American Catholics who voted for a pro-abortion candidate for President? If not from the Pope, who should this message come from. If not an overt, clear message, how should this message on where the Church stands be delivered?

[EyeGuy]

I get it.

No criticism of the Holy Father’s approach allowed.

None.

Ever.

[Running On Empty]

Maybe you should try poping. You could get an inside view of the job description.

[EyeGuy]

Fin to this juvenilia.

God Bless the Holy Father.