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To: Swordmaker
"I prefer to refer to the published and peer-reviewed scientific literature on the subject rather than Wikipedia."

First, thanks for your extraordinarily informative response. Even where I disagree, still much appreciate & enjoy it.

Now, on Wikipedia -- I always turn to Wikipedia first, because it invariably represents "conventional wisdom," and more often than not, "conventional wisdom" is as good as we can get. In other words, where Wikipedia is wrong, it's usually because a awful lot of people are also wrong.

In this example, I don't defend Wikipedia except to say that many people apparently don't know the facts. Seems that someone more knowledgeable might work on re-writing that Shroud article?

"Several researchers have stated that, under enhancement, the outline of a small phylactery appears to have been attached to the forehead between the eyes. This is the "open square" or "U" above the bridge of the nose in the image."

I see it now.

"That U or Square has been commented as appearing in many Iconic images that are thought to be created in the image of the Man on the Shroud such as the Christ Pantocrater."

Here is the oldest known Christ Pantocrater, from St. Catherine's Monastery, Mt. Sinai:

Compare to:

Compare to Zeus at Ephesus:

"...all related to forensic proportional body size tables, were presented in peer-reviewed science published actual measurements of the image on the Shroud put the height of the man at about 174cm ±2cm (5'8.5" +/-1")."

I'll take that as authentic.

"From the comparison among the anthropometric indices characteristic of different human races with those of the Man of the Shroud it was possible to point out that the Semitic race is the closest one to the characteristics obtained. "

Not sure how to take that -- note the word "possible."

135 posted on 04/10/2009 5:41:00 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Not sure how to take that -- note the word "possible."

That's the best anyone can do in the comparative sciences. It boils down to a matter of expert opinion... which can translate to someone unknown, under pressure, saying something based on who knows what. The study that did the measurements at least had some basis in objectivity.

However, those conclusions based on someone looking at a negative of a positive that is apparently a pseudo negative and then stating that it looks like a "Saphardic Jew or a Noble Arab," i.e. something subjective are, well, always suspect.

138 posted on 04/10/2009 7:38:20 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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