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How will artists get paid in 'darknet' era? (digital fascism)
Chicago Tribune ^ | March 25, 2009 | Greg Kot

Posted on 04/02/2009 11:20:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

According to some people who are paid lots of money to think about these sorts of things, the legal, ethical and economic questions facing the music business aren’t just about preserving the livelihoods of people who work in that industry. No, the very future of democracy is at stake....

At the heart of the debate is how to license peer-to-peer sharing of music files, widely blamed for the huge drop in sales of recorded music this decade. Sandy Pearlman, a veteran producer and McGill University professor, and entertainment lawyer Dina LaPolt raised the specter of a “darknet,” in which information and goods are shared in a closed virtual market that can neither be regulated nor monitored.

“The ‘darknet’ is here, with networking in corners of the Net where people can hide what they’re doing” and therefore not be held accountable for their actions, LaPolt said. These networkers are “part of a generation that grew up knowing only about a world of instant gratification and endless choice...”

“Social networks always start in anarchy,” said Rick Carnes, president of the Songwriters Guild of America. But he warns that if property rights aren’t respected and laws are being broken, the government will have to crack down and impose a new form of Web “tyranny.”

When the government starts putting the screws on rogue Internet traffickers, “You won’t be able to get on the network unless you have total identification,” including finger-printing and complete background information, Carnes asserted...

The anonymity afforded by the Internet “deprives us [songwriters] of the ability to make a living,” he said. “We’re on the frontier of this issue. How we solve it will define the future of democracy.”

(Excerpt) Read more at leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; darknet; filesharing; lping; privacyrights; riaa; songwritersguild
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1 posted on 04/02/2009 11:20:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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Does that mean Deputy AG David Ogden won’t be able to surf the internet for child porn?


2 posted on 04/02/2009 11:22:04 AM PDT by exist
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To: 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; Brian Allen; cgk; ...
The Media Industrial Complex will crack down on your privacy rights, comrade.

“Social networks always start in anarchy,” said Rick Carnes, president of the Songwriters Guild of America. But he warns that if property rights aren’t respected and laws are being broken, the government will have to crack down and impose a new form of Web “tyranny.”

"revolution is good" (to seize power). I loathe the Left.

3 posted on 04/02/2009 11:22:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Pres Obama just spent $150million of the $160million in returned AIG bonuses on a trip to England.)
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To: exist

All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others.


4 posted on 04/02/2009 11:23:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Pres Obama just spent $150million of the $160million in returned AIG bonuses on a trip to England.)
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“Social networks always start in anarchy,” said Rick Carnes, president of the Songwriters Guild of America. But he warns that if property rights aren’t respected and laws are being broken, the government will have to crack down and impose a new form of Web “tyranny.”

These maggots think the internet is all about them!
I hope they get smacked down hard but 0bomo has very nasty RIAA lawyers coming onboard his administration and one from the Software Alliance

5 posted on 04/02/2009 11:26:23 AM PDT by dennisw (0gabe the Kenyan subprime president)
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How will artists get paid in 'darknet' era?

Through giving live performances, same as they did in the era before recordings. Recorded music is becoming a free commercial for the live performance.

6 posted on 04/02/2009 11:27:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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“part of a generation that grew up knowing only about a world of instant gratification and endless choice...”

corporate lawyer singing the tune it suits him to sing.

Art will probably IMPROVE. Art used to be about communication of new ideas, not about selling sex & crap like it is now.

Back in the day there were CONSERVATIVE artists. In fact most artists 150-200 years ago, while still basically liberal, were a lot more honest in their creativity than the leftbots of today.

Viva la revolution, IMTHO
7 posted on 04/02/2009 11:27:39 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: a fool in paradise
"darknet?"


8 posted on 04/02/2009 11:27:47 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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At the heart of the debate is how to license peer-to-peer sharing of music files, widely blamed for the huge drop in sales of recorded music this decade.

That, and sucky music...

9 posted on 04/02/2009 11:28:26 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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... the government will be enlisted to preserve copyright law with the type of Draconian measures reserved for police states ... "You won’t be able to get on the network unless you have total identification,” including finger-printing and complete background information.



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
10 posted on 04/02/2009 11:28:32 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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ping


11 posted on 04/02/2009 11:32:09 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Toss on top of that internet reviews so you have opinions other than magazines that are part of the music industry, the ability to preview at least parts of songs and the ability to buy the one or two good tracks for $1 instead of having to buy the entire album for $15.
12 posted on 04/02/2009 11:32:51 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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“Social networks always start in anarchy,” said Rick Carnes, president of the Songwriters Guild of America. But he warns that if property rights aren’t respected and laws are being broken, the government will have to crack down and impose a new form of Web “tyranny.”

Who knew that songwriters were capitalists, and are now turning into fascists?

13 posted on 04/02/2009 11:34:18 AM PDT by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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I don’t recall the bands that played Woodstock agreeing to play “a free concert” for free. Nope, they encouraged the crowd to enjoy the free concert and still demanded their contracted payments.


14 posted on 04/02/2009 11:36:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Pres Obama just spent $150million of the $160million in returned AIG bonuses on a trip to England.)
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...and some thirteen year old will figure out how to get around all the security precautions that are thrown up around the ‘net, nature abhors a vacuum.


15 posted on 04/02/2009 11:40:57 AM PDT by The Louiswu (I live vicariously, through myself.)
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"widely blamed for the huge drop in sales of recorded music this decade"

And here I thought it was just because of all the CRAP that they have been trying to peddle.

16 posted on 04/02/2009 11:47:52 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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In the late 1990’s I heard an angry Garth Brooks say any music store that sold used compact discs would no longer be allowed to sell Brooks’ products. I realized then country music had come a long way from the honky tonk.
17 posted on 04/02/2009 11:53:03 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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In the late 1990’s I heard an angry Garth Brooks say any music store that sold used compact discs would no longer be allowed to sell Brooks’ products. I realized then country music had come a long way from the honky tonk.

Could you imagine the auto makers campaigning to stop the second-hand auto market? ha!

18 posted on 04/02/2009 11:58:57 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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I've visited a few used CD stores. The "used" rack is full of the stuff nobody wants. It arrived there after someone paid money for garbage. The used CD rack is a delayed transit to the trash can.
19 posted on 04/02/2009 12:00:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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[The “used” rack is full of the stuff nobody wants. . .]

I know. A friend of mine owns a pawn shop. He has a display of used CD’s. Many of the artists are unknown. But when the used CD market first appeared some people in the industry panicked.

20 posted on 04/02/2009 12:09:35 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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