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Legal U.S. Arms Exports May Be Source of Narco Syndicates Rising Firepower
Narcosphere ^ | 29 March, 2009 | Bill Conroy

Posted on 04/01/2009 4:17:56 AM PDT by marktwain

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Confirmation of what we had already deduced: the source of most of the cartel's weapons is likely corrupt Mexican military officials. Also acknowledgement that the Mexican government refuses to provide serial numbers to trace the arms.
1 posted on 04/01/2009 4:17:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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I would imagine that these weapons are much cheaper to buy in Mexico that here in the States.


2 posted on 04/01/2009 4:21:28 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: marktwain
Funny, the vast majority of the heavy and automatic weapons that have been confiscated in MX have not been US made... Chinese, Russian, and others.
3 posted on 04/01/2009 4:21:54 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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We need to stop the flow of guns and weapons towards Mexico. Let me express to you that we've seized in this two years more than 25,000 weapons and guns, and more than 90 percent of them came from United States, and I'm talking from missiles launchers to machine guns and grenades.

I call BS.

4 posted on 04/01/2009 4:26:40 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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5 posted on 04/01/2009 4:37:06 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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I wonder why no mention of Mexican ports where container ships dock and offload are never mentioned. Are we supposed to believe that the federales have a security stranglehold on those despite the rest of the country being out of control?


6 posted on 04/01/2009 4:37:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Yea, I think the Mexicans get their arms from other countries. I have read where full auto AK’s can be had for $50 in the middle east. Try to buy one here in the States for that money. That will buy you a couple of mags.


7 posted on 04/01/2009 4:43:44 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: caver
I would imagine that these weapons are much cheaper to buy in Mexico that here in the States.

Actually, they are much more expensive if they are "bought" but - not an issue. Most of these weapons are "freely" given. Heavy arms are provided to the narco gangs by corrupt officials - both military and civilian. In exchange, these officials get drug money and provide protection to the drug gangs. In turn, the drug gangs provide "protection" to the corrupt officials.

A couple of hundred thousand American dollars is coffee money when you are involved in a drug trade to make hundreds of millions of dollars.

8 posted on 04/01/2009 4:44:13 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (uickly)
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“A couple of hundred thousand American dollars is coffee money when you are involved in a drug trade to make hundreds of millions of dollars.”

How true!


9 posted on 04/01/2009 4:45:38 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: marktwain

If these weapons were going to the Taliban, it would take around 24 hours for the US government to stop the flow.


10 posted on 04/01/2009 4:49:30 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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- 3,578 explosive projectiles, including grenades, valued at $78,251;

Ah-HA! So that's why I couldn't find any 40mm HE ammo at Cabela's...

/sarc

11 posted on 04/01/2009 5:06:39 AM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: marktwain

Is this another Drugs for Arms deal? (or visa-versa)


12 posted on 04/01/2009 5:22:09 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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"To be sure, some criminal actors in the U.S. are smuggling small arms across the border."

I have no doubt that this is true also. However, I suspect a majority of these weapons are being purchased by ordinary, everyday Mexican citizens that can afford them. For their own protection from these vicious psycho drug gangs. These Mexican drug gangs are akin to the Columbian drug gangs of the 80's.
13 posted on 04/01/2009 5:40:09 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: xcamel

Well, at least they’re not blaming US gun shops anymore.


14 posted on 04/01/2009 5:58:53 AM PDT by tanuki (The only color of a leader that should matter is the color of his spine.)
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You know a lot of people forget that Hugh Chavez let Russia build plants in his country to make a lot of AK47s and other armament's for his view of revolution in South and central American. I would say that his plants are the ones supplying a lot of these so called illegal weapons to the drug lords.
15 posted on 04/01/2009 6:29:57 AM PDT by Reflex
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Excellent article thanks for posting.

I have just one small issue.

42 grenade launchers valued at $518,531;

That’s more than 12K per launcher. I would guess that the government purchase price for an M-203 is about $300 since there is not much to them. You could buy over 17,000 at that price.

16 posted on 04/01/2009 9:00:28 AM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I suspect a majority of these weapons are being purchased by ordinary, everyday Mexican citizens that can afford them.

Ordinary, everyday Mexicans can also be thrown in jail for 5+ years for owning even one bullet. The laws south of the border do NOT allow 'the people' to protect themselves. The right to self-protection is a luxury we take for granted all too often.
17 posted on 04/01/2009 1:31:16 PM PDT by PleaDeal (Palin in '12!)
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To: xcamel
Funny, the vast majority of the heavy and automatic weapons that have been confiscated in MX have not been US made... Chinese, Russian, and others.

I would imagine that a lot of the individual automatic weapons are H&K 91s (G3) made under license in Mexico itself, and the new Mexican designed, although derived from the H&K G-36, 5.56 assault rifle the FX-05 Xiuhcoatl" (Fire Serpent in the language of the Aztecs).

G3

FX-05

18 posted on 04/01/2009 3:05:39 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Good old military corruption...


19 posted on 04/01/2009 3:06:54 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Reflex

Reflex, more time spent on this angle you mention, would in my opinion, be time not wasted.

Of a sudden, when just recently Yugo Chavez was announcing a Russian deal to bring create a Russian/Venezuelan cooperative for AK-47s and such?


20 posted on 04/05/2009 5:39:43 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit (Rush Is Right)
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