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Dentist opens fire on purse snatcher(shoddy journalism alert for CCW & RKBA!)
Arkansas Democrat Gazette ^ | BY ANDY DAVIS

Posted on 03/25/2009 8:10:46 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Dentist opens fire on purse snatcher

Police say he shot as wife fought mugger

BY ANDY DAVIS ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

Going to the aid of his wife as she and an armed man struggled over her purse in the parking lot of the Wal-Mart Supercenter in west Little Rock on Monday night, a 63-year-old dentist pulled out a .357-caliber revolver and opened fire, striking the would-be robber in the buttocks, police said Tuesday.

Jonathan Terry, 24, of England fled but was found a short time later seeking treatment at the UAMS Medical Center. When he is released from the hospital, police said, they plan to charge him with aggravated robbery.

The dentist, John Antonetz of Little Rock, who works for the Central Arkansas Veterans Health Care System, had a permit to carry a concealed handgun, police said. Officers will forward information about the shooting to prosecutors for a decision on whether it was justified, police said.

About 62,000 people in Arkansas, including about 4,100 in Little Rock, have concealed handgun permits, according to the Arkansas State Police. The number of applications for such permits has spiked in recent months, a development that handgun instructors attributed to fear that the federal government will curtail gun rights under President Barack Obama and to the publicity surrounding the murder of KATV news anchor Anne Pressly.

Little Rock police spokesman Sgt. Cassandra Davis said the department generally discourages people from using force to fend off robbers.

“You are not familiar with this person. They may have an accomplice. They may be more skilled than you are,” Davis said. “In this incident, Antonetz did not get injured, but he could have.”

Instead, Davis said, she would recommend that people cooperate with the robber and “be a good witness,” paying attention to what the robber looks like, remembering what he says and making note of the weapon he uses and the vehicle he drives.

“In most instances, if an individual just gives them what they want without any resistance, in most cases, the suspect just flees with the property,” Davis said.

But Jack Acre, who owns a Little Rock security company and teaches a course on handgun safety, said that sometimes using force is the safest option. It’s up to the gun owner to judge the circumstances, he said.

“Some people want to just give them their money and hope that will end it, and maybe it would end it, but you never know in that situation whether it would or not,” Acre said.

According to police, Antonetz and his wife, Lydia Pace-Antonetz, were loading groceries into their sport utility vehicle at the store at 19301 Cantrell Road just before 11:30 p.m. when a man wearing a wig and a cap approached the vehicle, pulled out a silver revolver and announced a robbery.

The couple ran from the man, but he pointed the gun at Pace-Antonetz and grabbed her purse. As they struggled, the man struck Pace-Antonetz and repeatedly pointed a gun at her and her husband, police said.

A police report said Antonetz “went to the passenger side of the vehicle and retrieved his revolver from his concealed holster in his pants.”

Antonetz then went to the back of the vehicle and began firing. The would-be robber fell to the ground, then got into a white Dodge Intrepid that had pulled into the parking lot. Antonetz had fired at least four shots, including one just before the assailant sped away in the car, police said.

A short time later, UAMS Medical Center notified police that a gunshot victim had arrived at the emergency room. At the hospital, police found Terry, as well as Tequila Rice, 22, of Lonoke and Sherry Battles, 24, of North Little Rock, who police say had taken Terry to the hospital. Rice and Battles were arrested on aggravated robbery charges and were taken to the Pulaski County jail. Their bail had not been set Tuesday.

Dina Tyler, a spokesman for the Arkansas Department of Correction, said Terry was on parole for a burglary conviction. Further details of the case weren’t immediately available.

Pace-Antonetz, who answered the door at the couple’s brick, two-story home in Little Rock’s Pleasant Valley neighborhood, declined a request for an interview Tuesday. A woman who lives across the street described them as “a good Catholic family” who attends nearby Christ the King Church on Rodney Parham Road. The couple has two grown sons, neighbors said.

Under Arkansas Code Annotated 5-2-607, deadly force can be used in self-defense if a person reasonably believes that an attacker is about to commit a felony “involving force or violence” or if the attacker is “using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force.” The same law also states that deadly force cannot be used in self-defense in situations where an individual can retreat “with complete safety.”

To obtain a concealed-handgun permit, an applicant must pass a background check, complete a course on handgun safety and demonstrate proficiency with a firearm.

Already this month, the Arkansas State Police has received more than 3,000 applications for permits, compared with 1,429 in March of last year, said Bill Sadler, a spokesman for the agency. In January and February, the agency received 5,513 applications, almost double the number from the same period the year before.

In response to the increased interest, the Shooter’s Gallery in North Little Rock last fall began holding handgun safety courses every week, instead of every other week. Terry Skinner, the firing range’s manager, said some applicants are concerned about Obama, while others were shaken by the death of Pressly, who was beaten and raped at her home in Little Rock’s Heights neighborhood in October.

Skinner said he teaches his students that, if they’re being robbed at gunpoint, they use their gun to defend themselves if they have the chance.

“If you’ve got the opportunity to pull the gun out, you take the opportunity to shoot at the same time,” Skinner said. “The gun does you no good if you don’t use it.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ccw; concealedhandgun; rkba
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To: DCBryan1
“ ... They may be more skilled than you are,” Davis said ...“In most instances, if an individual just gives them what they want without any resistance, in most cases, the suspect just flees with the property,” Davis said.

I am trying to calculate the odds of "in most instances/in most cases" versus the odds of them being more skilled than me.

41 posted on 03/25/2009 9:21:47 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Travis McGee
....be a good witness,” paying attention to what the robber looks like, remembering what he says and making note of the weapon he uses and the vehicle he drives.....

I agree 100% with spokeperson Sgt. Cassondra. After you shoot the SOB dead, make careful notes. Work quickly and neatly. The police will arrive shortly.

Oh yeah, do put your gun away, or else an Amos'n'Andy Politically Correct Affirmative Action PD like Little Rock's is liable to shoot you, when they do arrive.

42 posted on 03/25/2009 9:24:38 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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To: DCBryan1; rlmorel; The_Victor

A good shot in the a$$ makes more of an impression upon lazy, skeezy, good-for-nothings than a swift kick in the a$$ anyday!


43 posted on 03/25/2009 9:39:18 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: Travis McGee; bang_list; Joe Brower; All
Here is a picture of the amish robbers:

Johnathan Terry Johnathan Terry Tequilla Rice Tequilla Rice Sherry Battles Sherry Battles

44 posted on 03/25/2009 9:46:03 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: dfwgator
“Is it safe?”

LOL

45 posted on 03/25/2009 9:54:06 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: DCBryan1
Jonathan Terry, 24, of England fled but was found a short time later seeking treatment at the UAMS Medical Center.

Maybe he was just trying to jump the queue for free dental work.

46 posted on 03/25/2009 9:56:30 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: DCBryan1

The dentist shot an ARMED MAN attacking his wife! For SHAME, you weakling “police”! He deserves a MEDAL!


47 posted on 03/25/2009 10:18:59 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: SES1066

He will certainly “bare” the memory of this to the toilet seat every time.


48 posted on 03/25/2009 11:14:04 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: CitizenM
" If someone wants to grab my purse, I can freely let it go. They won't get much, and I will be safe and can hurry to unlock my car and get out of there fast. They won't even have my address or any information from ID cards."

OK, so what happens when the robber looks in your purse and he is PISSED OFF at you that there's no money in there?

Food for thought.

49 posted on 03/25/2009 11:15:35 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (R.I.P. My Beautiful America - Land of the Free & Home of the Brave - 20 January 2009)
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To: DCBryan1
As they struggled, the man struck Pace-Antonetz and repeatedly pointed a gun at her and her husband, police said.

Guess that covers the first condition.

50 posted on 03/25/2009 11:27:46 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: DCBryan1

Tequila and Sherry drove him to the hospital?


51 posted on 03/25/2009 11:30:47 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Beloved Levinite
Well, actually, those guys grab and run. They don't stand there to look in the purses they take. They don't want to be identified, or have others come to the rescue of the person they stole from. They are gone in a flash.

If a person has their keys in their pocket, they can get in the car and be out of sight and get home or to the police. The robber will probably have run blocks away before looking in the purse and tossing it in the garbage.

52 posted on 03/25/2009 11:38:35 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Beloved Levinite; CitizenM

That gives her enough time to get her Glock out of her fannypack.


53 posted on 03/25/2009 12:54:42 PM PDT by Erasmus (These days, it's hard for an iconoclast to keep up his image. -- Sid W Sodnagel)
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To: The_Victor

LMAO!


54 posted on 03/25/2009 12:57:03 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: DCBryan1

Damn, a .357 up the ass. Wonder how he’ll shit now.


55 posted on 03/25/2009 1:51:11 PM PDT by Rannug
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To: DCBryan1
First, the violent, armed robber survived! Shooter should be sentanced to more range time!

Yea, but he'll be standing in his cell for some time to come. He'll have to sleep on his stomach...which isn't' the best position to be sleeping in if your cell mate is named Big Bubba and refers to his male member as "Old Roto Rooter".

56 posted on 03/25/2009 10:53:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: DCBryan1
paying attention to what the robber looks like

He seemed to have 2 anuses. One of them seemed to have a really bad case of hemeroids, as it was bleeding profusely.

57 posted on 03/25/2009 10:58:12 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: CitizenM
If a person has their keys in their pocket, they can get in the car and be out of sight and get home or to the police. The robber will probably have run blocks away before looking in the purse and tossing it in the garbage.

And then he'll go rob some other lady, maybe one who isn't quite quick enough in giving up her purse. Then she gets knocked on the head, and maybe has a brain injury.

Giving them what they want only encourages them. They must be stopped.

58 posted on 03/25/2009 11:05:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Rannug
Damn, a .357 up the ass. Wonder how he’ll shit now.

A double extrusion? Although for a while, he'll probably be popping ExLax, and it'll be more like a double stream.

59 posted on 03/25/2009 11:08:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Giving them what they want only encourages them. They must be stopped.

I believe we hire Police for that purpose. Give the lady a break, I think she is pretty darn smart.

60 posted on 03/26/2009 1:03:24 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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