[surfer]

I don’t think A Navy Vet is being negative about this at all. I have known A Navy Vet since the very early days of FR and he only wants the best for our country and for FR.

His point is clearly about that we as a nation are beyond the point of talk and demonstrations. In fact since he is in CA he sees clearly what is happening to our country only his perspective is magnified because of where he lives.

But we should all be clear that what is happening in CA, MA, etc is going to happen to all of us.

A Navy Vet understands that we are dealing with an unprecedented level of corruption within our government and organizations like ACORN are no different than organized crime organizations.

So I think if I may take what A Navy Vet is saying and rework it a little. We ALL need to understand where ALL of this is going. We are ALL going to need to stand together and be prepared for WHATEVER comes our way that may force us to ALL make difficult decisions. This may NOT be countered just with speeches, rallys, etc... it just may not be enough. We need to think with a lot more creativity to surround the socialist forces and defeat them.

We need to wake up, prepare our families and prepare for the worst - that isn’t being negative that is just having our eyes wide open and understanding what is taking place. If the worst comes then at least we were smart about it and our families will stand a better chance.

We may see the late 1700’s again...we are on the fast track to tyranny and we all need to make that fundamental decision on whether we will stand and fight for liberty or will we just be led to slaughter.

So for our convention we will need a serious agenda to discuss everything that should be considered and where do we turn to get the help that we need.

I am not trying to start a flame thread here...I just think we need to carefully consider what A Navy Vet is saying and focus on the point of his message not that he intended it to be negative...he is as frustrated as the rest of us. A Navy Vet I hope you don’t think I spoke out of turn.

[MinuteGal]

I think we all agree with every point both you and ANV mention. We are aware people. However, his post WAS negative in implying freeper conventions are fruitless.....and I disagreed. This is like saying the Tea Parties across the fruited plain such as the successful one held in Orlando last week represent fruitlessness and not "thinking outside the box".

Thanks for the input from both of you. All kinds of input from freepers will be under discussion at our convention.

Now, for the satisfying work at hand.....folks, if you can, please let Roos know ASAP if you're coming for one night or two so she has a strong hand to deal with the hotel.

Leni

[Roos_Girl]

Written word is hard to get propert context on sometimes. That’s why I invited A Navy Vet to offer us some ideas instead of just stating that nothing would come of our convention. I am very open to any ideas anyone has as to what should be included in our agenda, even from someone who might not be able to join us. I am not open to just being told that something’s not going work without being offered some alternatives.

[CRBDeuce]

We need to think with a lot more creativity to surround the socialist forces and defeat them. We need to wake up, prepare our families and prepare for the worst - that isn’t being negative that is just having our eyes wide open and understanding what is taking place. If the worst comes then at least we were smart about it and our families will stand a better chance.

Thanks for adding your voice...and I agree, that's probably where NavyVet was headed (at least from my perspective as an Army Vet). Operative word "Family". To be honest, I haven't quite decided yet whether this administration is Socialist or a Persian Trojan Horse with all the Iranian infiltrators...Hopefully the end result will be the pendulum swinging back to "American", before "last call". Looking forward to discussing all this with you again Next month!