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Montana Calling for "golden" currency
Politics Guns and Beer.com ^ | Montana Legislature

Posted on 03/24/2009 1:35:21 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51

Also, Montana has a bill in committee to allow:

“…THE STATE OF MONTANA AND POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS TO CONDUCT VARIOUS FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS IN GOLD, GOLD AND SILVER COIN, ELECTRONIC GOLD CURRENCY, OR LEGAL TENDER OF THE UNITED STATES; ALLOWING CERTAIN PERSONS CONDUCTING VARIOUS FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS WITH THE STATE OR POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS TO CONDUCT THE TRANSACTIONS IN GOLD, GOLD AND SILVER COIN, ELECTRONIC GOLD CURRENCY, OR LEGAL TENDER OF THE UNITED STATES; REQUIRING THAT CERTAIN FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN THE STATE AND OTHER PERSONS INVOLVING CERTAIN TAXES, FEES, AND CHARGES ON CIGARETTES AND TOBACCO PRODUCTS BE CONDUCTED IN ELECTRONIC GOLD CURRENCY; REQUIRING THE DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION TO ADOPT RULES FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF PAYMENT BY AND RECEIPT BY THE STATE AND POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS IN GOLD, GOLD AND SILVER COIN, OR ELECTRONIC GOLD CURRENCY; PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATION; AMENDING SECTIONS 7-6-201, 7-6-2111, 7-6-2603, 7-6-4302, 17-1-111, 17-8-301, 17-8-304, AND 30-2-511, MCA; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND APPLICABILITY DATES.”

http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0639.htm


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: dollar; gold; montana; silver
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Well well well, it has begun in earnest. Didn't think the states would start ditching the dollar this quickly.
1 posted on 03/24/2009 1:35:21 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51
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2 posted on 03/24/2009 1:36:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: fightinbluhen51
ELECTRONIC GOLD CURRENCY

I have a feeling they are on Constitutional thin ice with this one piece... other than that, looks good and Constitutional.

3 posted on 03/24/2009 1:38:30 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: fightinbluhen51

Readable version:

“…the state of Montana and political subdivisions to conduct various financial transactions in gold, gold and silver coin, electronic gold currency, or legal tender of the united states; allowing certain persons conducting various financial transactions with the state or political subdivisions to conduct the transactions in gold, gold and silver coin, electronic gold currency, or legal tender of the united states; requiring that certain financial transactions between the state and other persons involving certain taxes, fees, and charges on cigarettes and tobacco products be conducted in electronic gold currency; requiring the department of administration to adopt rules for the administration of payment by and receipt by the state and political subdivisions in gold, gold and silver coin, or electronic gold currency; providing an appropriation; amending Sections 7-6-201, 7-6-2111, 7-6-2603, 7-6-4302, 17-1-111, 17-8-301, 17-8-304, and 30-2-511, mca; and providing an effective date and applicability dates.”


4 posted on 03/24/2009 1:39:02 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fightinbluhen51

As long as the USD says “This Note is Legal Tender for All Debts, Public and Private” it cannot be refused by any entity in the USA — most of all a State.


5 posted on 03/24/2009 1:39:14 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003

Maybe I missed it, I didn’t see refusal of USD, only a Statewide alternative currency.


6 posted on 03/24/2009 1:40:25 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: fightinbluhen51
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7 posted on 03/24/2009 1:40:59 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: mnehring

They should have thought of all this in the early 1900s when all this crap started.


8 posted on 03/24/2009 1:41:14 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: freedumb2003

It’s not on coins though ... only on paper money which in reality is nothing but a fancy check printed by the fed’s ....


9 posted on 03/24/2009 1:41:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: fightinbluhen51

The “Golden Rule”! Cool!


10 posted on 03/24/2009 1:43:08 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: mnehring

States cannot establish monetary policy.


11 posted on 03/24/2009 1:43:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003
As long as the USD says “This Note is Legal Tender for All Debts, Public and Private” it cannot be refused by any entity in the USA — most of all a State.

They're not refusing dollars, only creating a system where gold can be used for payment.

It's a start, but is in fact is more limited than many of us would like to see.

12 posted on 03/24/2009 1:46:49 PM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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They aren't ditching it, but supplementing it.

“...OR LEGAL TENDER OF THE UNITED STATES...”

13 posted on 03/24/2009 1:47:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Cancel liberal newspaper, magazine & cable TV subscriptions (Free TV-dtv.gov). Stop funding the MSM.)
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To: freedumb2003

States can’t “coin money (refers to setting value) or emit bills of credit” however,there is an exception in Article 1, Section 10- “make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts”.

The way I read this, they can legally use Gold or Silver to pay debts within the State, however, they can’t set the value of said gold/silver (coining) nor can they issue any bills of credit (fiat or debt currency)


14 posted on 03/24/2009 1:47:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: AAABEST
They're not refusing dollars, only creating a system where gold can be used for payment.

Like I said, a State can't establish monetary policy.

15 posted on 03/24/2009 1:48:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: SkyDancer
FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS IN GOLD, GOLD AND SILVER COIN, ELECTRONIC GOLD CURRENCY, OR LEGAL TENDER OF THE UNITED STATES

Looks like they're covering all bases. Interesting.

16 posted on 03/24/2009 1:48:08 PM PDT by ponygirl ("Do not let anything into your body or into your heart that will damage your faith.")
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To: ponygirl

It is interesting how states are slowly looking at their own rights ...


17 posted on 03/24/2009 1:49:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mnehring

>>make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts”.

Maybe you have something there — sort of a Constitutional Atavism?


18 posted on 03/24/2009 1:49:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003

“This Note is Legal Tender for All Debts, Public and Private”-and is redemable in lawful money at the United States Tresury or any federal reserve bank.

Hows that?

Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts;


19 posted on 03/24/2009 1:49:41 PM PDT by crz
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To: freedumb2003

No but if the US Government has issued illegal money then they can.

Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility


20 posted on 03/24/2009 1:51:16 PM PDT by crz
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