Posted on 03/20/2009 6:48:01 AM PDT by Scythian
MANAMA, Bahrain — The U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet says two of its vessels — a submarine and an amphibious ship — collided in the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and the Arabian peninsula early Friday.
The military says in a statement that the collision occurred around 1:00 a.m. local time on Friday (5 p.m. EDT, Thursday).
The USS Hartford, a submarine, collided with an amphibious ship, the USS New Orleans.
According to the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, 15 soldiers aboard the Hartford were slightly injured but able to return to duty. No injuries were reported aboard the New Orleans.
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As I teach my children on our boat.
1. Nothing happens fast on a boat. (If it does it’s an emergency)
2. Never hit another boat.
The sub may move faster but the surface target can call tonnage!
662 was 292 feet like most of the rest. I did an ICEX with her when I was on 669.
You’re kidding, right? I did tours on both 637’s and 688’s. 688’s are about 70 feet longer and draft at least another 4-5 feet. I won’t get into how my first boat hit the pier in Bangor.
About the same time the news media gave up facts for feelings.
Well, to be honest I wouldn’t want some country covering our sea shores with 25,000 gallons of diesal fuel either, but they will surely play this up for propaganda that we are untrained and so on ...
I don’t know much about our Navy, but I thought our subs operated in 100% blackout. How would the boat commander know the sub was there?
Wasn’t Carter a sub commander? Things that make you go HMMMMMMMM.....
No you can't. As a former submarine deck officer, I assure you that submariners stay the H away from surface ships. They know they are smarter than everyone else and don't trust surface sailors [skimmer] to be smart enough to avoid a collision. And if you are steaming in formation, which subs really hate, you keep a really closer eye on them than you would on a known sex offender near your daughter. Subs are extremely maneuverable with big engines and huge rudders, so staying out of the way is really easy, actually. Must have been some idiot on the con. Plus in narrow straights, the CO and navigator would have been there to help out, so three idiots are now flying desks.
Don't know and don't care about the amphib ship. I am only concerned with the dishonor to the silent service.
One of his daughters, maybe?
No, he was not.
When I wrote that I thought it was a tiny very vast moving ship, I’ve since learned otherwise ... my bad
I wonder if they were in transit or doing something else.
It is a propaganda goldmine for Iran to have this happen in their back yard.
Oh well, let them start believing we are inept. As the CIA use to say, “We love when our failures are publicized”.
Yes he was. By far, hands down, no questions about it. He was also supposed to be smarter than that. Even if the CO of the amphib ship tried to ram the sub deliberately he should not have been able to do so.
Nah, don’t pick on the girls. They didn’t ask for a dolt for a father.
A sub is not a ship. It’s a boat.
OK...so he wasn’t a Commander...but he did serve on subs....
Carter served on surface ships and on diesel-electric submarines in the Atlantic and Pacific fleets. As a junior officer, he completed qualification for command of a diesel-electric submarine. He applied for the U.S. Navy’s fledgling nuclear submarine program run by then Captain Hyman G. Rickover. Rickover’s demands on his men and machines were legendary, and Carter later said that, next to his parents, Rickover had the greatest influence on him.
Carter has said that he loved the Navy, and had planned to make it his career. His ultimate goal was to become Chief of Naval Operations. Carter felt the best route for promotion was with submarine duty since he felt that nuclear power would be increasingly used in submarines. During service on the diesel-electric submarine USS Pomfret, Carter was almost washed overboard.[6] After six years of military service, Carter trained for the position of engineering officer in submarine USS Seawolf, then under construction.[7] Carter completed a non-credit introductory course in nuclear reactor power at Union College starting in March 1953. This followed Carter’s first-hand experience as part of a group of American and Canadian servicemen who took part in cleaning up after a nuclear meltdown at Canada’s Chalk River Laboratories reactor.[8][9]
When they want to do something sneaky.
...and submariners like to go down on them...
Another trillion dollar spending spree for oil clean up and Planned Parenthood? (Yeah. I know. Planned Parenthood has nothing to do with it, but they will be included in the spending spree anyway. They always are.).
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