Posted on 03/19/2009 9:45:15 AM PDT by cgk
I wasn’t surprised by our own squishy congressman Charlie Dent voting aye, but I was surprised to see our old rep Bilbray on the list of Ayes.
I’m not seeing the “mandatory” part of this legislation, what am I missing?
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You beat me to it. I don’t see anything ‘mandatory”, either.
This link to the bill in govtrack should take you right to the offending section: 61-4(b) 5-7
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&version=rh&nid=t0%3Arh%3A2355
Should be: 6104(b) 5-7
'Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.'
Also see this for those outside of 'secondary schools': 'Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”'
FYI, if you use GovTrack to get to the bill, you can link right to any offending sections you want to highlight.
Example: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&version=rh&nid=t0%3Arh%3A2355
see post #25
‘(A) not less than 90 percent of the students participate in service-learning activities as part of the program; orAnd:‘(B) service-learning is a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.
(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:
(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.
(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.
(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.
(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.
(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
(7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.
(8) The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for elementary and secondary school students, through service learning or other means, and by raising awareness of existing incentives.
(9) The effectiveness of establishing a training program on college campuses to recruit and educate college students for national service.
(10) The effect on United States diplomacy and foreign policy interests of expanding service opportunities abroad, such as the Peace Corps, and the degree of need and capacity abroad for an expansion.
(11) The constraints that service providers, nonprofit organizations, and State and local agencies face in utilizing federally funded volunteer programs, and how these constraints can be overcome.
(12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of senior volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal Government can effectively promote service among the ‘baby boomer’ generation.
Thank you very much, I did not know that!
Guess I'll get to spend some quality time in jail while I wait for my mandatory time to be up!
Unconstitutional on oh so many levels.
They got their foot in the door. Now they’re free to kick it in. The language allows them to do exactly what 0bama and Rahmbo have already stated they intend to do.
They’re coming for the young ones.
What is the Senate Bill Number?
I’ll say this: There are a lot of veterans, like me, who
are going to “voluntarily” go back on “Active Duty”.
They’re going to find out about voluntary service.
I’ll be damned if I’m going to let my children become subject to conscription under this “National Service Bill” by our federal government for ANYTHING of this sort...
TIME TO CALL, WRITE and basically RAISE HELL! Our youth will NOT support this! One of the things I heard younger people who supported Obama actually worry about was some sort of a draft. Well, this may not be for “military service”, but it is conscription nonetheless.
Your body, your time, your energy do not exist to become fodder for our government. They have NO RIGHT to demand these things of us...
Did y’all go to the link? It’s in there.
Do you know where we can find a breakdown according to party on this? Just out of curiosity...
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