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'Talks hit snag' [How Israel values ONE of its own VS Arabs "value" for 450 of theirs]
jpost ^ | March, 16, 2009

Posted on 03/17/2009 12:15:11 PM PDT by Masti

'Talks hit snag because Hamas insisted all 450 prisoners be freed' Jerusalem Post Palestinian sources on Tuesday told the pan-Arab daily Al Hayat that negotiations for the release of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Schalit were discontinued due to Hamas's insistence on freeing all 450 prisoners on the list it presented to Israel.

According to the sources, which the paper termed "reliable," the figure behind Hamas's hardened position was the organization's military chief, Ahmed Jabri, who had led the Hamas delegation to Egypt.

Egyptian sources told the paper that the Israeli envoys to the talks had said that they had given Israel's best offer and that anything further required an executive decision on the part of the government.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabs; goodvsevil; hamas; highmoralgrounds; humaneisrael; israel; jihad; morality; muslims; palestinians; wot; yigalshalit
Good VS Evil - Israel/Jews values one of its own more than the Arab Muslims value 450 of their "people"
1 posted on 03/17/2009 12:15:12 PM PDT by Masti
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To: Masti

Maybe you should read the article again?

It says Hamas offered the Israeli to Israel in exchange for 450 of their own, and Israel refused.

If your country (or family) isnt wiling to meet the ransom, and they have the means to make the ransom, and not meeting the ransom means you never see daylight again, I assure you that your country (or family) is not valuing your life all that much.


2 posted on 03/17/2009 12:32:07 PM PDT by skipper18
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To: skipper18
your country (or family) is not valuing your life all that much....

compared to what? sounds like a moral equivalency here... we'll release Shalit, so why can you just release 450 of our guys.

Israel values Shalit VERY much, but nevertheless should not release one single pali rat with blood on their hands. Period.

[and besides, I doubt that Shalit is even still alive. If he is, he is no longer the same person. Ideally, to get him back, some special force unit would go in killing every guard on their way to freeing Shalit]

3 posted on 03/17/2009 12:40:39 PM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: Masti

What the hell has happened to you Israel?
In the late 60s you’d have gone and found your soldier and taken him.
Now you’ve turned in to a bunch of sissy boys.
Horse crap. Release 450 killers? How many more Jews and others will be murdered because of this crap?
Give hamas and the palestinians a time frame. If they fail to release your soldier then start taking out whole blocks in the West Bank, Gaza, Damascus, Tehran.
Grow your balls back Israel.


4 posted on 03/17/2009 1:05:26 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

Couldn’t agree with you more. In my opinion, the biggest mistake that we and others have made in the “war on terror” is to refuse to take the necessary action to DESTROY THE ENEMY’S WILL TO FIGHT. How did we get from WWII, where we leveled Germany and vaporized two cities in Japan to get them to stop (successfully), to today where we have lawyers fretting over combatants’ “civil rights”, and where we agonize over launching even a small-scale operation until we can be sure that no civilians will be hurt?

Of course I don’t want innocents harmed, but the reality is that war is a dirty business and muslim fanatics will not suddenly have second thoughts about attacking us because we were careful not to harm their families. The Japanese were just as fanatical as the muslims, yet as Ann Coulter has pointed out (paraphrasing), “...after two well-placed nuclear bombs they became as gentle as little lambs.”

Israel has at times shown the guts necessary to do what is required to survive in their jungle of a neighborhood, such as bulldozing the homes of the families of suicide bombers, but they now appear to be softening. They must resist the temptation to weary of the fight and to instead harbor illusions that they can coexist with the muslims if only they are nice enough to them. The muslim terrorists are so consumed with an ideological blood lust that they can only be deterred by shocking them into submission, much as we did with Japan.


5 posted on 03/17/2009 1:23:04 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Joe Boucher

I hope SOMEONE overthere in the holyland listens to YA.


6 posted on 03/17/2009 1:23:35 PM PDT by Masti
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To: noiseman

Very well said noiseman.

Have to stop playing nice.
I know many Muslims in fact my next door neighbor is an Iranian Muslim. A gentleman and Architect. And sane as i believe most Muslims are. But they fail to reel in their crazies and eventually many will suffer as a result of that failure.


7 posted on 03/17/2009 1:40:28 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Masti

Releasing a bunch of killers is the opposite of valuing Jewish life.


8 posted on 03/17/2009 1:40:36 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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9 posted on 03/17/2009 1:56:41 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: skipper18
First of all, what do you mean by "your country"?
10 posted on 03/17/2009 2:32:28 PM PDT by Masti
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To: Masti

Couldn’t the Israelis free all of these 450 Arab Muslims... I mean, how long would it take to implant multiple subcutaneous RF-id tags on all of them?


11 posted on 03/17/2009 3:07:58 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Frohickey

good point.


12 posted on 03/19/2009 11:33:01 AM PDT by Masti
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