Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama administration ‘supports’ 2nd Amendment, but takes steps to prevent its exercise
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 16 March, 2009 | David Workman

Posted on 03/17/2009 7:38:59 AM PDT by marktwain

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last
The Gun Rights Examiners are doing good work.
1 posted on 03/17/2009 7:39:00 AM PDT by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: marktwain

Guns can not be allowed in a totalitarian police state utopia.


2 posted on 03/17/2009 7:50:20 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

The left will keep up the attack on the 2nd amendment. These people can’t help themselves. And it is through this arrogant, unconstitutional behavior that the 2nd American revolution will begin.


3 posted on 03/17/2009 7:53:23 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

Even my Demorat neighbors went to the gun show this weekend and signed up for NRA classes,I’m still stunned...


4 posted on 03/17/2009 7:55:59 AM PDT by cmsgop ( " C'mon, Stand Up Chuck")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax
It certainly will not do the rats much good at the next election in the swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Indiana.

Add the war against coal to the gun grabbing and Obama is looking for trouble.


5 posted on 03/17/2009 7:57:32 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford

You really think Obama and his handlers plan to allow another election?


6 posted on 03/17/2009 8:22:21 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: hoosierham

Anybody who thinks Obambi is pro gun is not only delusional, theyre insane. Hmm...must be liberals then...


7 posted on 03/17/2009 8:26:30 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: hoosierham
You really think Obama and his handlers plan to allow another election?

That depends on how much more deeply ACORN can embed itself in the swing states.

8 posted on 03/17/2009 8:28:47 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

The market and a clever gunsmith will find a way.

The firearms that use these calibers will soon have adapter kits to use other calibers of more available ammo,

like the .22 converter for the AR15.


9 posted on 03/17/2009 8:31:25 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ev Reeman

Remember, there were Catholics that thought he was “pro-life” and “wanted to reduce the number of abortions” too.


10 posted on 03/17/2009 8:32:03 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

Won’t this simply mean that ammo manufacturers will ramp up supply to fill the void?


11 posted on 03/17/2009 8:35:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldpuppymax

And when it does, weapons and ammo will NOT be a problem. Lots of those fellows in the National Guard and Reserves — who will soon come to detest Obama for what he’s preparing to do to vets — know where the armories are and will blow the door off the places. We’ll have help from many local law enforcement guys.

I pray it doesn’t come to that but, right now, it ain’t looking so hot.


12 posted on 03/17/2009 8:38:20 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

I sure can’t wait until Hussein is out of office. Come on, 2013!


13 posted on 03/17/2009 8:38:51 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

I’m mainly a handgun guy, but isn’t there a technical error in this article?

I thought the military shot 5.56, not .223. If I understand correctly (big if), you can shoot .223 in a 5.56 weapon, but not the other way around. Something about the radius on the neck of the bullet or some such thing.

No?


14 posted on 03/17/2009 9:01:06 AM PDT by Pessimist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA
Won’t this simply mean that ammo manufacturers will ramp up supply to fill the void?

Uncertainly is the one thing the market doesn't deal with well.

15 posted on 03/17/2009 9:30:10 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist

While your statement is on target (sorry for the pun), as the SAAMI-specified maximum pressure in the 5.56mm round exceeds the allowable maximum for .223, and there are some dimensional differences, I wouldn’t call it a technical error - rather the author is speaking in generalities rather than specifics. Just as the author mentioned .308 Winchester instead of 7.62mm NATO.


16 posted on 03/17/2009 10:00:33 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA
I'll try that again. Won’t this simply mean that ammo manufacturers will ramp up supply to fill the void?

They are already working full bore. I suspect they are reluctant to add capacity, because that costs money. Money that would be wasted if the Ombamites do something else drastic, like requiring micro engraving on bullets and catridge cases.

Uncertainly is the one thing the market doesn't deal with well.

17 posted on 03/17/2009 10:10:21 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist
“I thought the military shot 5.56, not .223. If I understand correctly (big if), you can shoot .223 in a 5.56 weapon, but not the other way around. Something about the radius on the neck of the bullet or some such thing.”

No. 5.56 and .223 are pretty much interchangeable. If anything, it tends to work the other way. 5.56 has certain specifications that .223 does not. So, .223 may not function quite as reliably in military firearms as 5.56. In practice, a firearm chambered for one will shoot the other.

18 posted on 03/17/2009 10:20:08 AM PDT by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

Obama will seek these 4 elements in a gun bill

1. An expanded HR 45, gun owner licensing. All gun owners will have to have these licenses, even owners of facilimie weapons (AKA Airsoft and BB). Licenses will only be granted if the records of the applicant are clean (This includes misdemeanors from decades ago). Licensees will be required to hold $1 million in liability insurance. Possession of otherwise permitted weapons (See #3) without license is a felony.

2. Ammunition accountability... All ammo will be required to be microstamped and will be taxed $1/round. All non stamped ammo will be required to be turned in or thrown away. Possession of non-marked ammo is a felony. This part of the act also bans “Cop Killer” bullets.

3. Expanded “Assault Weapons” ban— This includes most all semiauto rifles, anything that can be “Bump Fired”, Semiauto handguns, and Semi-auto shotguns. It also includes pump-action shotguns and “Sniper Rifles” AKA your deer rifle. The AWB will also require people with “Prebans” to register their guns as Machine Guns, and that the tax stamp will go up to $10,000 per weapon, or turn it in without compensation...

4. Expansion of the Lautenbach amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.

Finally, all CCW permits will be revoked by fiat of the Federal Government.


19 posted on 03/17/2009 11:41:24 AM PDT by Thunder90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist

They are basily identical .223 is the inch diameter 5.56mm is the same thing only in metric measurement


20 posted on 03/17/2009 12:22:42 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson