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Gates readies big cuts in weapons (Thanks to Obama gutting our military)
Boston Globe ^ | March 17, 2009 | Bryan Bender

Posted on 03/16/2009 10:15:25 PM PDT by utahson

Two defense officials who were not authorized to speak publicly said Gates will announce up to a half-dozen major weapons cancellations later this month. Candidates include a new Navy destroyer, the Air Force's F-22 fighter jet, and Army ground-combat vehicles, the offi cials said.

More cuts are planned for later this year after a review that could lead to reductions in programs such as aircraft carriers and nuclear arms, the officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; clark; elections; militarycuts; obama; secdefclark; westleyclark
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To: 1010RD

What is wrong with the Osprey?


141 posted on 03/17/2009 9:59:52 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: CottonBall

As your post demonstrates, the F-22 is flat out awesome.


142 posted on 03/17/2009 10:00:47 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: utahson
Coming to the military soon: new bows and arrows; swords; spears; chariots with one horse; one shot muskets. Hey, we are going to be a 3d world nation, we might as have a 3d world nation military. Our tanks will be Toyota pickup trucks with a machine gun in the back!!!
143 posted on 03/17/2009 10:10:16 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Destruction of the US Economy: Obama's Global War on Prosperity!!!)
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To: 1010RD
My step father who still holds the second most hours in the air in the Air Force has many medals including the Distinguished Flying Cross. His position is that you will always need a human to make a discussion. He agrees the UAV's do have their place but not as the main defense.

also the F15's are getting old the 'A' frame can not fly much longer and it would not be cost effective to rebuild them. So we need a fighter and the only fighter at the moment that can replace the F15's are the F22.

144 posted on 03/17/2009 10:10:45 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Centurion2000

“They said that crap in Vietnam.”

They were wrong then. Not now.

My career spanned the AIM-9E to AMRAAM. The first, while an improvement over the Vietnam missiles, sucked pretty bad. AMRAAM is amazing.

You might as well say we need to carry sabers, because ‘we needed them at Bull Run!”


145 posted on 03/17/2009 10:12:18 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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To: OafOfOffice
>>I would rather have Christian Carter and go through 22% mortgage rates than Hitler Obama h*ll bent on destroying my childrens America.<<

Hell, not me........let's get it on. The faster we get to the butting heads part of this thing the faster our country will heal.

I'm up for a fight.

146 posted on 03/17/2009 10:13:40 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Drill Thrawl

Dogfights ARE the past. I flew F-4s. That was then.

Do you carry a sliderule, because we needed them in ‘Nam?


147 posted on 03/17/2009 10:13:56 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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To: utahson

I guess he believes that Russia and China are going to stop developing weapons also.


148 posted on 03/17/2009 10:13:59 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

*fix*
not the ‘a’ frame but just the frame. ha


149 posted on 03/17/2009 10:14:29 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

trade wars....higher taxes....gutting of the military....yep...Carter II


150 posted on 03/17/2009 10:18:10 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I have long argue that by redesigning the fuselage shapes, engines, and avionics of existing aircraft, ...

And your expertise with aeronautics, structures, materials, propulsion and low-observable technology is?

Shall I cue up the crickets?

151 posted on 03/17/2009 10:20:44 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Do you REALLY believe that the US dropped a 500 lb bomb on the Chinese embassy in Serbia based of 4 year old maps because they THOUGHT there might be trucks parked there?

I always wondered about the downing of the stealth, and then the attack on the embassy.

Considering it is now 10 years later almost, and no one came forward other than the official accident explanation ...

I could possibly buy the theory it was not a mistake or accident ... Considering we were doing recon missions over Serbia for 5+ years before-hand ... We had accurate intelligence ...

No more than a year later, did the spy plane incident in China happen ... Things that make you go hmmm

152 posted on 03/17/2009 10:23:07 AM PDT by 08bil98z24 (War on Drug supporters are enemies of the Constitution.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Osprey had two major crashes during the development phase that killed a large number of men each time.

There are a lot of people who dislike the platform, some genuinely because they care for the lives of men and perceive it to be unsafe, some because they simply have no idea whatsoever why the platform is compelling, and some are a combination of the two. Others see it as a turkey, a bloated, unneeded platform that was purchased only because greedy generals want it.

The truth is, the platform has huge potential, and it is no surprise the USMC wanted it very much, as do the SAR teams.


153 posted on 03/17/2009 10:23:39 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Getsmart64
RADAR technology is so advanced there is no need for dogfighting skills....

Microsoft Flight Simulator is not generally recognized as an authoritative source on this subject.

154 posted on 03/17/2009 10:25:32 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ohioman

One reason to keep manned systems is that unlike UAVs
manned A/C can still guide themselves if mass shootdowns
of navaid satellites occur.


155 posted on 03/17/2009 10:27:56 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: 08bil98z24
I think there was an explanation on how they shot down the F 117 or a good theory at least. That is the F117 is very easy to see from space looking down on it, the Russians helped them.
I am not sure the technicalities of that but it makes sense.
156 posted on 03/17/2009 10:28:41 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: devolve
Good post devolve.
Wagya head...


157 posted on 03/17/2009 10:45:34 AM PDT by potlatch
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To: April Lexington

better visit while it’s still there.


158 posted on 03/17/2009 10:54:26 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: servantboy777

Yes Sir, Col. William Prescott! Ready for duty Sir!

“Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes!” The recession and all save your powder. /wink

I hear all of you. I refuse to give up our country to communism. They have tried for decades to get their man in the White House and they succeeded this time. We have to keep up the fight and make sure it never happens again.

Today’s Quote
“53 million Americans grew tired of being thought to be dumb by the rest of the world,
So they went to the polls and removed all doubt.”


159 posted on 03/17/2009 10:59:04 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Mr Rogers

And you are a pompous, arrogant, know-nothing ass.


160 posted on 03/17/2009 11:01:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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