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Foaming controversy as socialized suds hit NB Liquor shelves (New Brunswick Gov't Made Beer!)
CBC ^ | March 12, 2009

Posted on 03/13/2009 5:32:18 AM PDT by Loyalist

New Brunswick is rolling out its government-brand suds across the province on Thursday in a strategy to keep people from heading across the border in pursuit of discount beer.

The new brand is designed to staunch the bleeding of beer sales in border communities, but it is infuriating local brewers and at least one Quebec business owner.

The beers, Selection Lager and Light, are being brewed exclusively for the New Brunswick Liquor Corp., a Crown corporation, by Saint John-based Moosehead Breweries.

Dana Clendenning, the liquor corporation's president and chief executive officer, told a legislative committee in January that NB Liquor was losing about $12 million in sales annually, primarily to Quebec. Now he is boasting about the beer's New Brunswick roots as the first cases are being stacked on NB Liquor shelves across the province.

"We are proud to launch these premium-quality, low-cost brands, which are brewed for New Brunswickers by New Brunswickers," Clendenning said in a press release on Thursday.

He described the beers as "using quality ingredients … slightly drier than the typical lager and light beers, with a crisp, dry taste. They are light-to medium-bodied in colour, with a clean, fresh finish."

Clendenning defended the enterprise on Thursday as the first cases were put on sale.

"As far as I'm concerned, nothing ventured nothing gained. We haven't invested in a plant or equipment, we don't have a sales team out there," he said.

"It's a minimal investment to launch these two brands."

New Brunswick's policy of socially responsible pricing means that the lowest allowable price for 12 cans is $18.67. That policy is designed to set a floor price for beer in the belief that any lower prices would lead people to buy too much and develop drinking problems.

But in Quebec, the lowest allowable price is much lower. Beer drinkers across the border can get 24 cans of beer for as little as $25.

The new Selection brands will be sold throughout the year for $18.67 for 12 cans. Other beer companies have to apply to sell at the minimum price for a limited time and can only do that a certain number of times each year.

While the beer may be cheap, Craig Pinhey, a New Brunswick wine and beer expert, said the product may be worth the price for some people.

"If you like mass-produced Canadian lager, this tastes just as good as the other ones. So why would you not save money?" he said.

The new beer wasn't winning immediate converts among some Saint John beer drinkers despite the lower cost.

"Well as far as I'm concered, Alpine was the provincial beer anyway," said Harold Defazio, a customer.

"I'll try it, but I can't see me switching my beer."

One obvious city that NB Liquor will be selecting to target with the Selection brand will be Campbellton, which rests on the province's north shore.

After a quick drive over the J.C. Van Horne Bridge, residents are in Pointe-a-la-Croix, Que. Within a few seconds they can be at the Restigouche Drive-Thru, a convenience store on the Listuguj First Nation.

At times 80 per cent of the cars in the parking lot have New Brunswick plates.

Frederic Daigle, the store's manager, is already giving NB Liquor some advice it probably doesn't want to hear.

"The only thing that could really help the province of New Brunswick, if they're really serious about [saving sales to Quebec], is to open up the sale of beer into mom and pop convenience stores," Daigle said.

"Cigarettes aren't selling like they used to, and so the only thing left, really is the beer. If they could get that back into their stores, the spinoff provincewide would be unbelievable."

Business advice aside, there is also concern that NB Liquor's new beer is brewing a nasty neighbourly divide.

Alison Mettalic, the owner of the Restigouche Driv-Thru and the chief of the Listuguj First Nation, said people on both sides of the border are neighbours and not competitors.

"We do our schooling on the other side. We do our shopping on the other side. We buy our cars, buy our groceries, hospitalization. We're like a big family and I don't see what the big deal is, because we're really helping each other, you know if you take a look at it," Mettalic said

Adding to the frustration felt by Mettalic is the idea that a large Crown corporation is taking aim at small convenience stories.

"This giant monopoly is trying to fight the little guys, and we're having a hard time to survive around here, and we're all chipping in and helping each other," Mettalic said.

"They may be losing millions, I mean a few million, but that doesn't compare for the annual income that the NB Liquor commission takes in, in the run of a year."

NB Liquor had almost $380 million in sales during the last fiscal year.

While the Crown corporation enjoys hundreds of millions in annual sales, a New Brunswick microbrewery is worried about its future.

Shaun Fraser, the president of Moncton's Pumphouse Brewery, has been outspoken in his opposition to the government's plan to tap into his sales.

"For the government to put one of their Crown corporations in direct competition or in business with their own citizens and their own entrepreneurs, you know, I mean whose money are they playing with when they do this?" he said.

"Come on down and pay my bills and you can play with my brewery all you want.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Government
KEYWORDS: beer; economy; holdmuhbeer; nbliquor; newbrunswick; socialism
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To: Loyalist
What ever happened to Molson, Labatt Blue ... the beer of my yout???
21 posted on 03/13/2009 1:38:10 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

I agree.

I haven’t drank a lot of Canadian beer - but about 10 years ago, I crossed the border into Canada and bought some Labatt’s Crystal.

Now THAT was some fine-tasting beer! Smooth-tasting and easy drinking.

For reasons unknown to me, you can’t find it down here. At least not in the Midwest anyways.

If the US ever invades Canada, the first thing we have to do is seize control of the breweries!


22 posted on 03/13/2009 1:56:51 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Loyalist; Eric Blair 2084; GOP_Lady
New Brunswick's policy of socially responsible pricing means that the lowest allowable price for 12 cans is $18.67. That policy is designed to set a floor price for beer in the belief that any lower prices would lead people to buy too much and develop drinking problems.


23 posted on 03/13/2009 2:02:31 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Red Badger

And a beer...in a tree!


24 posted on 03/13/2009 2:05:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: buccaneer81

LOL, you’re right.

Did you hear about the guy who abducted his infant daughter a few years back?

He was holding her by one leg over the apartment balcony, but told the cops he would bring her back inside if they would get him a case of Schooner.


25 posted on 03/13/2009 2:15:19 PM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: Loyalist

Socialist beer.......can vodka payments be far behind.


26 posted on 03/13/2009 3:04:46 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: fanfan
He was holding her by one leg over the apartment balcony, but told the cops he would bring her back inside if they would get him a case of Schooner.

Sadly, I believe it. Now if he had asked for Moosehead, the poor kid would need therapy. ;-)

27 posted on 03/13/2009 5:54:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

LOL!

The kid was saved, and the father jailed.

I’ve never had a Moosehead, but my sister bit some cheese once.

;-)


28 posted on 03/13/2009 5:57:41 PM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: fanfan
Canadian cheese LOL! :


29 posted on 03/13/2009 6:03:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Good one!

See the 7 peices on the left?
I don’t live there.

See the convergance of the three big peices?
Thats my block.

:-)


30 posted on 03/13/2009 6:09:06 PM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: fanfan
See the convergance of the three big peices? Thats my block.

St. Lawrence River area? I grew up in Woodstock, NB as an ex-pat American (Mom was from there. Spent ages 13-22 in NB.)

31 posted on 03/13/2009 6:20:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

The top part. Ottawa river. :-)

13 - 22 in NB?

You grew up in God’s country.


32 posted on 03/13/2009 6:45:41 PM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: fanfan
You grew up in God’s country.

The Saint John River Valley surely is God's Country. Great people. Just dirt poor, unfortunately. I was just up there in January. It had been quite a few years since I experienced -40 degrees. My wife (who grew up in Ohio) was stuned!

33 posted on 03/13/2009 6:55:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: fanfan

I’m trying to figure out what this is all aboot.

Damn Canadians.

This is aboot control.
This is aboot Gubmint intervention.
This is aboot the State trying to control it’s citizens.

You gave us Frum, take him back. In fairness, you also gave us Mark Messier, thank you.

And your national anthem is much better than ours. Sorry fellow American FReepers. Francis Scott Key can’t be expected to write good lyrics when the Fort is under fire.

Listen to the Canadian national anthem in gay French before a hockey game. It’s great.


34 posted on 03/13/2009 9:20:10 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: neb52
What next, Obama nationalizing Natty Light?

Olde English - 40 oz.
35 posted on 03/13/2009 9:22:12 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Loyalist

Government cheap beer...yeeech.

I once had a taste of cheap Russian government vodka...oily film and taste. You had to be drunk to drink it.


36 posted on 03/13/2009 9:38:39 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Will trade sex for ammo)
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