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Obama's speaks again of a National Civilian Security Force
various -- see body | 12 March 2009 | bvw

Posted on 03/12/2009 5:47:50 PM PDT by bvw

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To: 230FMJ
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Republican Party?”

Whew! I could truthfully skate by on that one!

41 posted on 03/12/2009 7:01:34 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Rome2000

Wow! What a photo! I notice many interesting generalizations that could be drawn from it. That’s a classic.


42 posted on 03/12/2009 7:03:39 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: bvw

Can you say sieg heil?


43 posted on 03/12/2009 7:03:52 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Batman11

Do you remember that among the Basji’s army were the children -— the misfit and the mentally retarded? The children’s army given toy plastic keys to use to open the gates of paradise, for they were sent into the killing fields of the Iran-Iraq war to be human mine clearers.

So too has Obama engaged our intellectually naive young people and given them rhetorical trinkets “Hope and Change” and sent them forward throughout the land to break and defuse the angry reaction of the sane upon learning of his plans?


44 posted on 03/12/2009 7:08:53 PM PDT by bvw
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To: antidemoncrat; All

And let us not forget Mao’s Revolutionary Guards.

On May 16, 1966, Chairman Mao alleged that liberal bourgeoisie elements were dominating the party and insisted that they needed to be removed through post-revolutionary class struggle by mobilizing the thoughts and actions of China’s youth, who formed Red Guards groups around the country.

The damages caused by the Cultural Revolution were seen by impartial observers, by the majority of China’s population, as well as by the Communist Party of China, as an epochal unmitigated disaster for the country and its people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

It is a cultural revolution that Obama is calling for and working to bring about. Those who claimed I was overboard with the brownshirt analogy have some merit — perhaps the far closer analogy is the Red Guard!


45 posted on 03/12/2009 7:10:20 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

I’d like to hear somebody argue, no way, Jose! Heck, he’s already got ACORN operating and fully funded for the next several years, the seeds have been planted.


46 posted on 03/12/2009 7:13:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bvw

Thanks, I am aware of the Basij’s reprehensible tactics of using the handicapped, and impressionable young people, to do their dirty work. Given the opportunity, ACORN already has the infrastructure in place to move in a similar direction.


47 posted on 03/12/2009 7:16:02 PM PDT by Batman11 ("Big ears isn't my President!")
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

The Selective Service agency “floated” the idea of a “special skills” draft.

To make this acceptable the government would have to draft only a small number of people or use a “crisis” (everything is a crisis nowadays) to make the population submissive.

The MSM will likely pump out lots of propaganda about “giving people and opportunity to give something back.”


48 posted on 03/12/2009 7:23:23 PM PDT by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: edcoil

Don’t we have them and they are called the National Guard?

You have to remember that the national guard is controlled by the governor of the state. Obama would control a national police force.

If the president conscripts the national guard, they become subject to the Posse Comitatus law. The national police force would not be so hindered. This is Obama’s attempt to circumvent the Posse Comitatus law, and sic the brown shirts on the american people.

We do not need another police force inthis country.


49 posted on 03/12/2009 7:32:10 PM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Batman11

ACORN already has the infrastructure in place to move in a similar direction.

plus 3.5 billion dollars of Obama stimulus money. They can do a lot of damage with that kind of money.


50 posted on 03/12/2009 7:36:18 PM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: stockpirate; All
CHANGE you damn well better believe in... or else. . .
51 posted on 03/12/2009 7:59:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: bvw; All

I could use some help. I’ve been looking for a quote either from Obama or his WH staff about martial law. Something from Obama himself. I have some members of congress talking about threats of martial law just before the election, I don’t need that.

Someone challenged me to prove it. The state sovereignty bills [NH and AZ] mention martial law. I can get those bills. But what did O say that the legislators took it so seriously?

IIRC I thought there were statements in November but I can figure out how to to a search on FR to go back that far. Don’t know what I’m doing I guess.

It is sort of connected to the topic of this thread, the civilian security force, and I hoped someone here could help me.


52 posted on 03/12/2009 8:08:09 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: TornadoAlley3

“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the military, he said.

Hitler felt the same way about the S.A. I’m glad my grandfather, who lived through this in Germany, didn’t live to see this in the adopted country he loved.


53 posted on 03/12/2009 8:09:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen
"We already have a civilian security force. The armed citizens in America outnumber the police, security, and the army, navy, air force and marines all put together."

I agree with you, BUT there is a problem. I know the news keeps saying ammo sales are extremely high throughout the country, but I think it's really just a small bunch of people buying large amounts. I live in South Mississippi where everyone hunts and has guns, so I took a little poll among my friends and associates. The question was "how much ammo do you have for EACH of your guns?". Routine answers were:

1 to 2 25-round boxes of shot shells

1 to 2 5-round boxes of shotgun slugs

1 to 2 50-round boxes of pistol ammo

1 to 2 20-round boxes per rifle.

There were exceptions, but those were the average answers.

That's not a lot if the sh*t hits the fan! You can have a dozen different guns, but only a couple of boxes for each caliber / ga isn't going to last too long. Especially if you have to move around, it's kind of hard to carry them all in a skirmish. I'm not saying how much I keep handy, but I'd have to let some gun barrels cool down a few times before I would even get close to running out. ) :

54 posted on 03/12/2009 8:20:18 PM PDT by jmax
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To: bvw
The "brown shirts" cometh!

Puts me in mind of an interesting article written in 1933 about Hitler's first year.

Hitler or Oscumbo??

The similarities between oscumbo and Hitler have transcended reasonable paranoia!

55 posted on 03/12/2009 8:29:40 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: clamper1797
If I didn’t know better I would think that FUBO is purposely trying to start a revolution

What is it that you know better? IMO the left has been trying to provoke the right into violence for at least the last ten years. And I mean from the highest levels of elected officials not street level activists.

56 posted on 03/12/2009 9:51:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: bvw

It seems we may be forced to constitute our own militias, drawing upon trained veterans, before they can get the street rabble armed and formed into ill-controlled and undisciplined bands of thugs with police powers. The republic is worth fighting for.

NB — To anyone in an intelligence gathering apparatus monitoring this site: I mean this as a purely hypothetical proposition at present and have not conspired with any person, nor have I taken any overt action in furtherment of the action described.


57 posted on 03/12/2009 10:04:41 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: bvw
Link to DOD Directive 1404.10 HERE (in PDF format).
58 posted on 03/12/2009 10:07:17 PM PDT by Skibane
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To: bvw

I remember the Black Panthers in Philadelphia (?) “guarding” the voting site and thought he must’ve already put together his “civilian security force.”


59 posted on 03/12/2009 10:13:40 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: jmax
man now thats a VERY low number of ammo!!!

I wont say how much I have, but suffice to say that its at least an order of several magnitudes :-)

I do need to stock up on 9mm, .223 green tip and others but the $$ is very tight now.

I spoke to a friend a couple weeks back and he advises at least 1000 rounds PER weapon (not caliber) and he has quite a nice collection imho.

60 posted on 03/12/2009 11:10:18 PM PDT by prophetic (God, let 0Bama and his evil plans for this country fail & let him be utterly disgraced like HAMAN!!)
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