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Expert: Drug violence result of lapsed gun control enforcement
Washington Examiner ^
| 03-12-09
| Associated Press
Posted on 03/12/2009 9:59:52 AM PDT by theruleshavechanged
Expert Tom Diaz says that imports of certain semiautomatic rifles were regulated under the first Bush and Clinton administrations. But he told a House panel Wednesday the import rules were relaxed under the most recent Bush administration.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; control; drugs; drugwarconsequences; gun; immigration; mexico; organizedcrime; thankprohibition
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Its not the drugs that causes violence, its the guns! Not the corruption, the GUNS! Give me a break. . . .
To: theruleshavechanged
A better title: Drug violence result of gun control
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:03:33 AM PDT
by
Pantera
To: theruleshavechanged
Tom Diaz, anti-gunner of the Violence Policy Institute?
Some “expert”.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:03:58 AM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: theruleshavechanged
EXPERT = ex - spurt
i.e. former drip under pressure.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:04:31 AM PDT
by
GoldMan
(Never try to rationalize an irrational mind............)
To: theruleshavechanged
Expert Tom Diaz, lifelong moron.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:04:55 AM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: theruleshavechanged
But he told a House panel Wednesday the import rules were relaxed under the most recent Bush administration.
__________________
Yupper! All Bush’s Fault!
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:07:14 AM PDT
by
WakeUpAndVote
(FReeping. It's good old fashion fun for the family!)
To: theruleshavechanged
It’s the billions and billions of dollars being made on the drugs, mostly coming from marijuana sales. They’re fighting over the money and whether they could get guns from here or not they would arm themselves. And the military grade fully automatic weapons and grenades and other military hardware they have is not coming from this country. It’s coming from somewhere else.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:09:37 AM PDT
by
TKDietz
To: theruleshavechanged
Ri-ight. Just give all the tweekers machetes instead and they'll sit in the corner and be peaceful.
We have been 'fighting' the war on Drugs almost as long as the War on Poverty. Just another quagmire. Until Coke is as cheap as Pepsi, there will be turf wars fighting over who makes the profit. Users aren't going to quit, but sunlight might send the cockroaches scuttling elsewhere.
(No, I do not advocate the use of currently illegal drugs, but we have been doing the same thing for a while now and expecting different results.)
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:13:02 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: GoldMan
> i.e. former drip under pressure.
Let X = the Unknown, and
Spurt = slow drip under pressure...
(The DownUnder variation of that age-old classic...)
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:14:53 AM PDT
by
DieHard the Hunter
(Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
To: SJSAMPLE
> Tom Diaz, anti-gunner of the Violence Policy Institute?
New Zealand's foremost firearm control Authority and "Gun Expert" here.
All you need to be an "expert" is an Opinion and far too much time on your hands. Anyone can do it -- Alpers has proven it!
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:23:39 AM PDT
by
DieHard the Hunter
(Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
To: theruleshavechanged
As if import were the only way to get guns. I'm convinced that the further to the left anyone is the less they understand technology. Guns do not have to be made in a factory, and they involve no high tech methods. During WWII the British made Sten guns (a nasty little 9MM submachinegune) in basements and garages out of simple tubing and sheet metal with only the bolt being a machined part, and a simple one at that. The AK 47 is only slightly more complex. An average machinist could make a good living producing black market guns. I've even seen a picture of a working revolver that was made in a penitentiary machine shop while the guards weren't looking. Guns are just machines. A prohibition on them produces the same kind of black market that liquor prohibition did in this country once.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:38:57 AM PDT
by
CrazyIvan
(If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
To: Smokin' Joe
We have been 'fighting' the war on Drugs almost as long as the War on Poverty.Longer. The WOD started very early in the 20th century when southern DemocRats got laws passed to outlaw cocaine because they were seeking new ways to imprison blacks in their plantation/prisons.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:39:37 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
To: theruleshavechanged
The only problem I see is the lack of gun USE on the border.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:40:07 AM PDT
by
RC2
(http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
To: theruleshavechanged
Drug use and automatic weapons result of porkulus. People on the border are having to get more guns to protect themselves, but since they are losing their homes due to their medical bills they have replaced the prescriptions of anxiety medications with pot because its sold on their street corners cheaper..the guns have been collected by the mexican gangs as the ex homeowners left because they had to pay for the druglords house and could no longer aford insurance for their illnesses. sarc...
To: theruleshavechanged
Drug violence is the result of drug prohibition. Just as alcohol violence was the result of alcohol prohibition (as proven by the fact that the violence ceased once alcohol prohibition was ended.)
Gun prohibition is (would be) just as effective as is (was) drug (alcohol) prohibition at reducing illegal use of the prohibited item/substance: It would be totally ineffective. But it would be at least as effective at engendering even more/worse violence.
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posted on
03/12/2009 10:47:08 AM PDT
by
sourcery
(Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
To: theruleshavechanged
Remember the new acronym:
O ne
B ig
A ss
M istake
A merica!
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posted on
03/12/2009 11:10:47 AM PDT
by
2harddrive
(...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
To: theruleshavechanged
These are some of the most stupid people in the world.
And to think they affect policy... scary indeed.
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posted on
03/12/2009 11:26:55 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
To: Smokin' Joe
No, I do not advocate the use of currently illegal drugs, but we have been doing the same thing for a while now and expecting different results.
The definition of insanity.
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posted on
03/12/2009 11:29:25 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
To: sourcery
Except they wouldn’t end firearm prohibition.
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posted on
03/12/2009 11:31:30 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
To: CrazyIvan
I guess the drug dealers are too honorable to import guns along with the drugs. I mean once guns are banned in the US all drug dealers will comply with the laws. And the Libs spout this nonsense with a straight face. All it will do is make a market for illegal imported or home made guns.
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posted on
03/12/2009 11:41:10 AM PDT
by
JimC214
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