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'Jesus' banned -- so chaplain resigned
OneNewsNow ^ | March 11, 2009 | Allie Martin

Posted on 03/11/2009 1:44:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

A former chaplain with the Virginia State Police says he had no choice but to step down after a new policy took effect requiring generic prayers at department events.

Last summer, Rex Carter and five others resigned from the volunteer chaplain program. The move came after a new rule was instituted that restricted prayers by the volunteer chaplains. Carter, who is still a State Police officer, said he had no other choice once he was told he could not pray in the name of Jesus.

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Recently, a State Senate panel killed a bill that would have prohibited State Police officials from restricting prayers by volunteer chaplains.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; antichristian; atheismandstate; chaplain; constitution; firstamendment; freedomofreligion; kaine; leo; moralabsolutes; religiousintolerance; resignation; secularhumanism; timkaine; waronchristianity
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Virginia has fallen a long way since the founding.
1 posted on 03/11/2009 1:44:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

He did right, resigning.

You have to wonder. Why ask someone to pray if you don’t believe his prayer means anything. And if you do think his prayer is real and effectual, let the man pray the way he knows how to pray.


2 posted on 03/11/2009 1:47:43 PM PDT by marron
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To: Jim Robinson

The Virginia State Senate was recently taken over by the left. We hope to change things this November.


3 posted on 03/11/2009 1:48:12 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Mt 10:32,33

"Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven."

4 posted on 03/11/2009 1:49:29 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: HokieMom; Jim Robinson
We hope to change things this November.

Unfortunately, the Virginia Senate doesn't have elections this year. All members of the House are up, but the Senate isn't up until 2011.

5 posted on 03/11/2009 1:50:28 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Jim Robinson

All religion must be generic except for those who follow Allah. (sarcasm off)


6 posted on 03/11/2009 1:50:52 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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7 posted on 03/11/2009 1:51:26 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Didn’t the change initiate in the governor’s office? I read once that Kaine supported the change. Governor McDonnell’s administration would have a religious liberty provision, unlike Tim Kaine. But I might be remembering it wrong.


8 posted on 03/11/2009 1:52:46 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: marron
He did not do the right thing. He played right into their hands and did exactly what THEY wanted him to do.
You gotta stand for what you believe in.
9 posted on 03/11/2009 1:53:38 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Jim Robinson

God bless this man.


10 posted on 03/11/2009 1:54:16 PM PDT by SonnyBubba
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To: Jim Robinson

Godless policemen. Not safe.


11 posted on 03/11/2009 1:54:47 PM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: "...all of us, who consider ourselves progressive...")
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To: Jim Robinson
Yup ... not quite the same.

Excerpt from the First Virginia Charter (April 10, 1606) - in the days long before 'PC-speak':

... [3rd paragraph]

Wee, greately commending and graciously accepting of theire desires to the furtherance of soe noble a worke which may, by the providence of Almightie God, hereafter tende to the glorie of His Divine Majestie in propagating of Christian religion to suche people as yet live in darkenesse and miserable ignorance of the true knoweledge and worshippe of God and may in tyme bring the infidels and salvages living in those parts to humane civilitie and to a setled and quiet govermente, ...

The founders would gag at the mush-speakers we've become...

12 posted on 03/11/2009 1:55:05 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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This is not bad news. I do not think that the government should be entangled with religion by having chaplains (except for people serving in the military).

Whenever I hear about this kind of issue, I pretend that the government-sponsored chaplain (school teacher or whoever) was preaching radical muslim doctrine, and I am totally okay with doing away with the practice.

13 posted on 03/11/2009 1:55:31 PM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: Jim Robinson
I guess the person who wrote this asinine rule has never read this:

The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, 16 January 1786

by Thomas Jefferson

(excerpt)

"Be it enacted by General Assembly that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of Religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge or affect their civil capacities."


14 posted on 03/11/2009 1:57:49 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: HokieMom

No, you’re correct. I think we’re talking past each other. I believe you are correct that it was a Kaine appointment who issued the directive and Kaine supported it.

I thought you meant that we’d be changing the makeup of the Senate this year.


15 posted on 03/11/2009 1:57:58 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Minutemen
He did not do the right thing.

Maybe you're right. The alternative would be to pray the way he knows how to pray, and dare them to fire him. Maybe they do, and maybe they don't, but he continues in his job until they push him out. But for sure, he should never let anyone dictate the form or even the content of his prayer.

16 posted on 03/11/2009 2:00:33 PM PDT by marron
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To: donna

No protest from the Christian Police?


17 posted on 03/11/2009 2:00:43 PM PDT by classified
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To: Jim Robinson

HokieMom wrote: “The Virginia State Senate was recently taken over by the left.”

The Virginia State Motto... Sic Semper Tyrannis...


18 posted on 03/11/2009 2:01:19 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
we’d be changing the makeup of the Senate this year.

Sure wish we could! Getting Attorney General McDonnell in there will be awesome. I did hear a democrat say she heard Terry McAuliffe on the radio and he was being a "total jerk" so that's good news.

19 posted on 03/11/2009 2:01:21 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: PackerBoy

I think you may be missing the whole point. Virginia is establishing a special, Jesus-free state religion, in violation of the Establishment Clause.


20 posted on 03/11/2009 2:03:28 PM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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