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DA found no crime in Pa. hospital organ harvesting
phillyburbs.com ^ | 3/6/09

Posted on 03/09/2009 11:05:06 AM PDT by Born Conservative

A district attorney says no crimes were committed by officials at a northwestern Pennsylvania hospital when organs were harvested from an 18-year-old Ohio man who suffered a head injury while snowboarding.

Erie County District Attorney Brad Foulk says Friday his review of the medical files shows the hospital followed proper procedures in declaring Gregory Jacobs dead and getting permission to take his organs in March 2007.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: gregoryjacobs; hamotmedicalcenter; organdonation
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1 posted on 03/09/2009 11:05:06 AM PDT by Born Conservative
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To: dangerdoc; lonestar; ziravan; Judith Anne; linn37; hunter112; Dianna; Kozak

As we all suspected....


2 posted on 03/09/2009 11:06:56 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: Born Conservative

Look Dave! Here’s that lower intestine we’ve been looking for! Never mind the oxygen, this man’s a donor!


3 posted on 03/09/2009 11:07:02 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Born Conservative

PA of course.


4 posted on 03/09/2009 11:09:25 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Born Conservative
The way I heard this on local talk radio is that the boy signed his drivers license as an organ donor, but the family denied their permission to take him off the respirator and harvest his organs, but the hospital went ahead anyway, based on the signature on the drivers license.

Am I wrong?

If the drivers license signature is used to override the family's wishes, then that's a really good reason to not sign that donor slot on your drivers license.

5 posted on 03/09/2009 11:25:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maybe because he was no longer a child in the eyes of the law, as he had turned 18. Thus, he, not his parents, was the final arbiter of that decision.


7 posted on 03/09/2009 11:29:41 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (FMCDH - BITS - BLOAT, and all that other stuff)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

the guy was 18, therefore an adult and his family would have no override of his signature, as far as I know.


8 posted on 03/09/2009 11:30:27 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Question is if this young man signed drivers license while he was a minor.
9 posted on 03/09/2009 11:31:54 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The point of signing the card is so you make the decission, not your family.

If that is not what you want, you should not sign the card. You should also avoid advanced medical directives and living wills.


10 posted on 03/09/2009 11:37:30 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: camle
On the local talk radio station, a nurse from the University hospital called in and said that they would never override the family's wishes, no matter what the donor card said, if the family were available.

The family was available.

Organ transplants are a profit center.

I find cashing in on a tragedy despite the family's wishes to be highly repugnant.

11 posted on 03/09/2009 11:38:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: dangerdoc
If you sign the card, you leave yourself open to the fact that your organs are worth a lot more to the hospital than you are.

Organ transplants are the most lucrative medical profit centers there is.

12 posted on 03/09/2009 11:39:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Look at my drivers license now. Exp 2011. I might have to do something about this.
13 posted on 03/09/2009 11:40:37 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (FReeping. It's good old fashion fun for the family!)
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To: QQQQ
"Question is if this young man signed drivers license while he was a minor."

I'm not 100% certain of the case with Ohio, but most states have a junior driver's license from 16-18 which restricts the hours one can be on the road, the number of people in the car etc. Most kids are lining up at the DMV on their 18th Birthday, or as soon as possible thereafter to "upgrade." Of course I have no way of knowing if that's the case here, but most normal, healthy male 18 years olds will have a new DL in their wallet within a week of turning 18....

14 posted on 03/09/2009 11:43:44 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Yes, you're wrong!

So much for having a will if family members could change it to suit themselves. Or, would the signature on a will override the wishes of the family.

15 posted on 03/09/2009 11:47:29 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama has turned a crisis into a catastrophe.)
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To: lonestar
Yes, you're wrong! So much for having a will if family members could change it to suit themselves. Or, would the signature on a will override the wishes of the family.

Some people sign the donor card without really thinking about it, because they want to be "nice people."

Don't you find the fact that organ transplants are the most lucrative profit center in the entire medical industry a bit troubling?

You don't think Obama's Health Care Czars will look upon this as a way to subsidize the rest of the system?

You don't think that they will err on the side of the dollars when making these kinds of decisions.

If something happens to me and my family wants to donate my organs, fine, but I am NOT willing to allow Obamacare bureaucrats to make that decision.

16 posted on 03/09/2009 11:52:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Keeping you alive is worth more to the hospital in billable dollars.

Keeping you alive if your brain is dead is not necessarily an ethical thing to do.

Where do you think all of this organ money is coming from? Selling organs is illegal.


17 posted on 03/09/2009 12:19:46 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If he’s 18, and signed the donor card, the parents have no say (legally). There was just a case (in PA) near where I live that was similar, and the law prevailed.

As for it being a reason for not signing a donor card, it was apparently the 18 year old’s wish to donate his organs, so why should the parents of this adult be able to go against his wishes? (if he did, in fact, sign a donor card)


18 posted on 03/09/2009 12:28:59 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hmmm, hospitals are “profit centers”; do you consider them vile for “cashing in” on people’s illnesses?

The problem with these types of situations is that it’s a highly emotional time for everyone involved. If my son signed a donor card over the age of 18, what right do I have to go against his wishes, and deny his organs to others? It’s his decision to make; not mine, and I respect that.


19 posted on 03/09/2009 12:33:04 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Some people sign the donor card without really thinking about it, because they want to be "nice people."

Probably. But I repeat, why should anybody bother with a will or signing a donor card if the family can override the wishes of the deceased?

If something happens to me and my family wants to donate my organs, fine, but I am NOT willing to allow Obamacare bureaucrats to make that decision.

Puh-leeze! This was going on before there was an Obama!

I assume if you or your family needed an organ transplant you would change your opinion in a NY minute!

20 posted on 03/09/2009 1:53:03 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama has turned a crisis into a catastrophe.)
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