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Smart Grid: Government spying targets Rural America [read this - Big Brother insists]
RFD America ^ | March, 2009 | admin

Posted on 03/07/2009 4:01:51 PM PST by upchuck

Edited on 03/07/2009 4:07:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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Time to read "1984" again, paying particular attention to the amount of control the government has on Winston's environment.

We need to spread this info far and wide. It's not getting any play in the national press or on TV.

When the time comes, I'll bet FReepers can come up with ingenious ways to get around this. I hope FR is still on the air then so we can share.

1 posted on 03/07/2009 4:01:52 PM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Ever heard of the “Enhanced Drivers Licenses? There you go.


2 posted on 03/07/2009 4:05:05 PM PST by Sudetenland (Victory in 2012...but first Victory in 2010!!!)
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To: upchuck

I want OFF the grid!


3 posted on 03/07/2009 4:07:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Coulds be Farts)
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To: upchuck
In Soviet States of America, Power company turns you off.

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4 posted on 03/07/2009 4:08:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: upchuck
Related: IBM Unveils Building Blocks for 21st Century Infrastructure (Smart Grid,RFID is big bother)

Sen. Reid: Feds Should Trump States in Building the Smart Grid

Ontario pushes big 'green' agenda ("smart grid."coming to America)

5 posted on 03/07/2009 4:08:34 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: upchuck

Part of this is the logical progression of technology.

It is good to help individuals and businesses identify where they use the most energy and resources as long as the individual or business gets to decide how to alter its usage.

Like firearms, these technologies are tools that can be used for good or evil. Opposing them simply because they can be misused is not logical.


6 posted on 03/07/2009 4:11:56 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: upchuck

Smart grid == Electricity rationing.


7 posted on 03/07/2009 4:12:33 PM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: upchuck
dissent

This graphic uses actual county by county results for the last election. It's pretty clear they are not controlling the rural areas like the cites.

8 posted on 03/07/2009 4:14:18 PM PST by Nateman (It's Pres_ent Obama until we see some id!)
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To: mylife

It is more possible today than ever to live off-the-power-grid. I could do it, and probably would if my wife could accept it. She cannot, because of life style habits.

But I am not sure it is possible to live off the location grid.

You can however reduce your profile. I am already doing some of that.

My posts here however probably increase my profile. And I live in the Big Nothing in Texas.


9 posted on 03/07/2009 4:16:21 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I am sick of them having their nose in everything.


10 posted on 03/07/2009 4:18:19 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Coulds be Farts)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It’s the “as long as” phrase in your sentence that is being forcibly taken from people. Qualifiers do not compute in logic that allows for no variability.

What’s going on now is about control. Absolute control.


11 posted on 03/07/2009 4:18:48 PM PST by combat_boots (Leave America poor, hungry, sick and defenseless. Wasn't that the plan? How's that Hopenchange now?)
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To: combat_boots

In this case, not only are they removing personal choice in this, they’re removing the choice of the states themselves.


12 posted on 03/07/2009 4:21:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: mylife

I am sick of them having their nose in everything.

We all are.

It is not the technology that is the problem, but the motives of those who use it.


13 posted on 03/07/2009 4:25:24 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: cripplecreek

Secession is a choice. It is not immoral.


14 posted on 03/07/2009 4:28:01 PM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I know. I have friends who started working on this tech 12 years ago.

I thought at the time it could be misused.


15 posted on 03/07/2009 4:28:03 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Coulds be Farts)
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To: upchuck
If you keep your domicile warmer or cooler than the temperature approved by the federal government, you pay more.

Even if you burn fire wood.....

This is central control BS to deal with the FACT that wind and solar power cannot come even close to replacing the coal and nuclear plants the libs want to shut down.

They HAVE to control the demand to make their expensive, fragile, and anemic renewable power system work. This is a HUGE step backwards in reliability and lifestyle all for the fake global warming scare.

16 posted on 03/07/2009 4:30:53 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Texas Fossil
It is not the technology that is the problem, but the motives of those who use it.

And we have global warming alarmists in control who see us as criminals and mentally ill.
17 posted on 03/07/2009 4:31:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Right. The problem is government intervention into everything. If the tech was just used to help consumers make better choices, that would be fine. Government is force and the men who control it use that force to do evil unto other men.


18 posted on 03/07/2009 4:31:28 PM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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To: Sudetenland

Mine stays in its little envelope - I’ll put tin-foil around it if I have to...


19 posted on 03/07/2009 4:34:41 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: upchuck

I’ll tell you what if I were in the country I’d advoid their “smart grid” and RFID for farm animals (heck the US government is going to be broke in acouple months, anyway..let them speand years gathing court document, case files, ect: IT IS SERIOUSLY TIME TO START THINKING: CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, FOLKS!


20 posted on 03/07/2009 4:35:58 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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