Posted on 03/06/2009 6:42:06 AM PST by GOPGuide
adult stem cells have proven far better
Their not talking about stem cells, their talking about screening embryos for disease.
first IVF embryos- then all fetuses
to be checked for imperfections and aborted to save cost to society
Mandatory? Whenever the government mandates something like this, it’s not a good thing. Mandatory genetic testing of the unborn in a nation where abortion is legal IS eugenics.
Destroying embryos because one doesn’t like their genetic outlook is always eugenics and is indeed already underway in the U.S., as the steady decline in trisomy births indicates; the state mandating it is state-sponsored eugenics, and really just the logical consequence of state-managed health care.
You know, I typically refrain commenting on the abortion/stem cell threads, but this one just screams for a response... What kind of warped mind argues, “It’s in the best interests of the child,” to ABORT it? If it’s dead, how on earth can it be in the child’s best interests??
Tell me again how this is in the best interests of the child?
So, Mr. Anonymous Author, and yes I'm sure you're male, are you volunteering to be shot as soon as you contract a serious illness? No, I thought not. It's always other people's lives that are surplus to requirements.
Hitler called them “lives not worth living.” That was his decision, not theirs.
It’s appalling that we’re even discussing this.
Is there any "bioethicist" who's not a Death Eater?
I wonder why the OP didn't include the author in the post header, since the information was at the site.
Actually, with some conditions, prenatal testing can be the basis for prenatal treatment, and greatly improve the outcomes for someone born with a genetic disease, by normalizing the course of development before birth. There’s not much of this happening yet, but it’s likely to become widespread within the next 10 years.
The notion that preimplantation genetic diagnosis could become mandatory is simply preposterous. This would require outlawing sex, and that just ain’t gonna fly.
You hit the nail on the head. As much as the current economic situation worries me, our descent into moral darkness truly horrifies me. I would bet my last dollar that if such genetic testing becomes mandatory, it will eventually result in only “Perfect” children, the rest will be aborted. Parents who have genetic flaws will not be allowed to procreate. I believe all children are a unique creation of an Almighty God. They are a Blessing from God, that parents are entrusted to Love, nurture and protect. It seems the number of people who believe this gets smaller every day. How completely sad.-—JM
This is laughable. The costs of mutation rates involved in IVF reproduction wildly outweigh any benefit from genetic screening.
How does “screening” accomplish anything? He’s not telling the whole truth here.
If you simply substitute “killing” for “screening” in this article, you get a true picture of what he’s really advocating.
Sick times we live in.
But before we go turning people into race horses we should take a long hard look at race horses.
In genetics, as with capitalism, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Almost all things come with an associated cost, a trade off, a point of diminishing returns.
Race horses have thin legs for speed, thin legs that are prone to break. Race horses have thin skin for dumping heat, so thin that it often cracks. Race horses are not as robust and fecund as most other horses.
Are we, as a species, willing to undergo these trade offs?
What traits do you think government would desire among its populace. Free thinking fun loving rebelliousness would not be a desired trait, no doubt.
As to the subject at hand, elimination of a genetic allele that will most certainly cause cancer or insanity or early death is a personal choice and should remain exactly that, a free and personal choice by a private citizen, unencumbered by the long arm of government. IMHO.
I misread this...I didn’t see that this is only about IVF, which is immoral anyway, since it results in the deaths of unborn children. If you’ve already accepted IVF, it’s hard to argue against what he’s advocating.
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