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To: heat pipes
Christians have no excuse for not being Zionists.

I beg to differ. Some 80% of the population of modern-day Israel are agnostics or atheists. Their religiosity (and liberal politics, btw) is not much different than Europe, or the most secular parts of the USA.

I'm a big supporter of Israel--as it is the only independently democratic--and fully civilized--country in the Middle East. But should I support them merely (or mainly?) because most of them have a Jewish heritage? Should I support them, be they right or wrong, out of fear of being cursed by God, or somehow to quicken the 2nd Coming of Jesus? I think that kind of support verges on religious superstition, not a wise evaluation of the actual nation on the ground.

The nation-state of Israel today, should not be confused with the ancient theocracy of the Kingdom of David from 1000 BC.

Support Israel today? Yes, but hold them to the same standards as any other country on earth, not as some mystical favored (or spoiled?) child of God--particularly when the landslide of the population is irreligious.

Yes, I am an evangelical Christian--and scripture teaches--a spritual descendant and heir of Abraham. Please, however, do not call me a "Christian Zionist," only a Christian; as no follower of Christ should have divided loyalties.

41 posted on 03/06/2009 5:53:43 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
but hold them to the same standards as any other country on earth

You don't believe we do that? Please give an example of what you're talking about please.

45 posted on 03/06/2009 7:19:42 AM PST by Hildy
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To: AnalogReigns

Reading your post reminds me that most US Jews feel the same way you do, thus their voting behavior.

Very self destructive.


47 posted on 03/06/2009 8:43:37 AM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: AnalogReigns

“Please, however, do not call me a “Christian Zionist,” only a Christian; as no follower of Christ should have divided loyalties.”

I never called you anything.

I stand by my statement. If a person supports a Jewish nation (in this case it has to be Israel b/c that’s what was prophesied in the Bible), then you are a Zionist. I’m sorry if you don’t like the meaning of the word.

I’m not sure what you mean by *divided loyalties*, as I’m a bit foggy atm, but when God says whoever blesses you will be blessed and whoever curses you will be cursed, He means what He says.


52 posted on 03/06/2009 1:38:55 PM PST by heat pipes
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To: AnalogReigns

nice post...my feelings about Israel as well


53 posted on 03/06/2009 10:00:46 PM PST by wardaddy (I've known black people over 50 years, raised with them and by them.. Obama ain't BLACK, HE"S RED!)
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