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Mich. boy, 12, killed by gun being cleaned by dad
KSTP.com ^ | 3/5/09 | AP

Posted on 03/05/2009 7:00:15 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

Police say a 12-year-old Michigan boy was shot and killed when a gun being cleaned by his father went off.

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Typical of the AP. Gun's fault.....
1 posted on 03/05/2009 7:00:15 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Ridiculous.

It’s not “cleaning,” it’s “pulling the trigger.”


2 posted on 03/05/2009 7:01:56 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Accidental bathtub drownings had the highest rate (14.3 per 1000000): http://www.vdh.state.va.us/medExam/pdf/AccidentalDrownings.pdf

Ban baths.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 7:02:42 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Whatever happened to “treat every gun like a loaded gun” and making sure the thing is 100% definitely NOT loaded and still treating every gun like a loaded gun.


4 posted on 03/05/2009 7:04:20 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Gosh, I don't mean to make light of this awful situation, but how in Hades can ANYONE - and I mean, even RETARDED people - be stupid enought to try to "clean" a gun when there's a round in the chamber?

And how exactly do you purport to get a cleaning rod [or string] in and out of the thing if the base is capped off with a round anyway?

This gets beyond asinine and into the surrealistic.

Either this father was so drunk he couldn't see straight, or he's lying and he shot the boy on purpose, or he has the IQ of a doorstop.

5 posted on 03/05/2009 7:04:35 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

What kind of bonehead cleans a gun with BULLETS still in it?!?
I bet he was showing it off to the kid and that’s why this tragic preventable accident happened.

But just wait, HolyO will quote this and other similar incidents with boneheads as the reason why the gubmint needs to void that pesky little second amendment, you know, for the public’s safety because obviously the public can’t do any better than killing innocents with evil guns!

/sarc


6 posted on 03/05/2009 7:05:05 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: All

How to clean a gun:
1. Point the firearm in a safe direction while keeping your finger off the trigger.
2. Open the action, Remove the magazine and make sure there are no rounds in the chamber.
3. (the rest of it)

Please tell me, how do you clean a loaded gun? I have been a shooter my whole life, and a firearms instructor for more than half of it.
I feel for the family’s loss, but blame goes to, and remains with, the one holding the firearm.


7 posted on 03/05/2009 7:06:33 AM PST by Tracker47
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To: Beelzebubba

“rusty gun-had been in storage for some time- forgotten that there was a round in it”

Idiot. ALL of my firearms are cleaned regularly in ritualistic fashion and the first part of the ritual is to check for loads and thats not done by pulling the trigger and theres NO kids around.


8 posted on 03/05/2009 7:07:30 AM PST by Leg Olam (my gurlfrnd syas my tyipgns as goood as my sex)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I’m sure the father wants to die himself.

Never clean a loaded gun.


9 posted on 03/05/2009 7:07:31 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

rules 1-100

Never, Ever, point a gun at anything you don’t want to destroy.

rule 101-200

there is NO such thing as an unloaded gun.

rule 201.

unload it before cleaning it, stupid. (the action should be open before you start cleaning it anyway).


10 posted on 03/05/2009 7:10:00 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: pillut48

I doubt very seriously he was cleaning the gun. I think the only FACT we have is that the boy was shot. The rest is testimony, apparently by the only surviving witness.

I suppose “cleaning the gun” is the best story I could come up with too.

It may be true. Just sayin’...


11 posted on 03/05/2009 7:10:00 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

(If I had any guns) I [would] always store rifles with the magazine detached, and check the chamber about 20 times before I go about any actual “cleaning”.


12 posted on 03/05/2009 7:10:22 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Tragic and stupid.

What is the first thing you do when you pick up a handgun? Keeping your finger off the trigger and pointing it away from anything you would not want to kill, you take appropriate steps to determine whether the firearm is loaded. I'm sure I don't need to remind any gun owners here, but you just can't repeat it enough: All Guns Are Loaded.

13 posted on 03/05/2009 7:10:27 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

So why is KSTP (Mpls/St.Paul) reporting on a gun death in Michigan?
“killed by gun”... No, he was killed by his dad.
It just happened to be WITH a gun.
And dad is a moron.


14 posted on 03/05/2009 7:10:58 AM PST by astyanax (Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in.' Ronald Reagan)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I call BS. I think he accidentally killed the kid, then made up the “I was cleaning it” excuse later.


15 posted on 03/05/2009 7:10:59 AM PST by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Retired Greyhound

How many of the “cleaning” accidents are actually “screwing around with a loaded gun” accidents? If you claim it went off when you were cleaning it, it makes it seem like the shooter is less responsible.


16 posted on 03/05/2009 7:11:22 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: Retired Greyhound

This is an example of people who own guns casually and use them infrequently. They are not typical gun owners who fully understand the nature and purpose of the weapon and respect it as such. Too bad for this Dad, but it was entirely his fault.

I guess the next time there’s a fatal auto accident, people will say we should ban cars. It only follows.


17 posted on 03/05/2009 7:13:44 AM PST by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Sad. RIP.


18 posted on 03/05/2009 7:16:46 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: KarlInOhio

I’ve read the line so many times, “The gun just went off.”
Does this REALLY EVER happen? Can one fire if dropped?
I know I have to squeeze the HELL out of the trigger on both my guns to make them fire.


19 posted on 03/05/2009 7:17:37 AM PST by a real Sheila (Obama's FAILURE is the only chance the U.S. has for SURVIVAL!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I am convinced that not a single person in the MSM has ever owned a firearm.


20 posted on 03/05/2009 7:18:34 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield (OBAMA - One Big Appalling Media Atrocity)
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