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Yikes! This ought to get the attention of women supporters of nationalized healthcare!
1 posted on 03/04/2009 8:27:26 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

I know several relatives who had this happened when they were giving birth would say “that Doctors head is in just the right place for me to kick his brains out.”


2 posted on 03/04/2009 8:31:15 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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Brave doctors, as the father of two children I know first hand how brave those doctors must have been to deny a pregnant woman anything, especially one that is in labor.
3 posted on 03/04/2009 8:32:45 PM PST by txroadkill (God Help Us-The Rats are in charge! And they aren't paying their taxes!)
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My sister-in-law had one of her kids in a public UK hospital. I’m told it was downright medieval. How medieval you ask? She and the baby still had blood on them when they went home - that night. Welcome to socialized medicine.


4 posted on 03/04/2009 8:33:37 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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I had epidurals with my first 2. Had natural with the third. Natural was MUCH better.


5 posted on 03/04/2009 8:33:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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No kidding. I have always wanted to see a study that compared post partum depression in women who had epidurals vs those who didn't.
6 posted on 03/04/2009 8:34:27 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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I had 5 pregnancies and no epidurals. It can be done. But to have the option taken away from me? I would not have liked that. At all.


7 posted on 03/04/2009 8:36:16 PM PST by mombyprofession
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Just give me a pair of vise grips and when I’d hurt, he’d hurt where it counts .......


8 posted on 03/04/2009 8:38:13 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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headaches are “natural” too, but we still take ibuprofen.

Methinks the UK is less concerned with natural childbirth as they are with the cost of the epidural.

This article should be blown up and posted in every ob/gyn office so american women know what’s coming.


10 posted on 03/04/2009 8:39:39 PM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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Thank God my kid was born in the USA. Had this stupid policy been in place she would have died during delivery. She decided to wrap her cord around her neck a couple of times and had the doctors not been able to discover the resulting lowered oxygen flow. We only found that out after the emergency C-Section.

But mommy and baby are doing fine now, thank God.

11 posted on 03/04/2009 8:40:45 PM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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A co-worker of mine said that she was semi-forced aka bullied into having an epidural she did not want. She still has back problems that she didn’t have before that.


13 posted on 03/04/2009 8:43:18 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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No matter how they want to sugar coat it, I'm sure it was a matter of cost. My sister-in-law, in the UK, spent the night in the hall after the birth of her first child. There were no open beds and this was in the 70’s. Zero will have his nationalized health care but I won't bet on his surviving the experience. Americans are spoiled by having the best health care on the planet. Americans don't want to wait for anything but, with an NHS, they may wait a year or two for an elective surgery. No rush when the ‘Government (really the taxpayer)’ is paying.
14 posted on 03/04/2009 8:44:56 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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It's quite easy to know the stories that stem from the UK. The more absurd, twisted, limiting, or straight out insane a story gets, the more likely it came from the United 'Kingdom.'

As for epidural ...women should always have the option. Some may want to take the natural approach, others may want to have some relief against the pain. Taking away that option is plain insane.

20 posted on 03/04/2009 8:48:08 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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I’m not a woman. If I were a woman, I would have every procedure available to make childbirth less agonizing. Women have my respect.


21 posted on 03/04/2009 8:48:32 PM PST by mysterio
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Mal-f*ing-practice. Whorehouse ethics to boot.
22 posted on 03/04/2009 8:49:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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But now new guidelines have categorised the procedure as unnatural in a bid to boost the number of women having traditional births.The aim is to reduce the number of women having epidurals or caesareans by up to 40%.

Natural? How about having the baby out in the field and cutting the umbilical cord with a stone knife? All of this stuff with doctors and latex gloves and pain killers and heart monitors just gets us away from nature.

23 posted on 03/04/2009 8:50:27 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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Queen Victoria would not be amused.

The UK medical establishment was against the use of anesthetics in childbirth 156 years ago. Apparently, nothing has changed...

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/EPI/snow/lancet1853reaction.html


27 posted on 03/04/2009 8:55:24 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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Let’s hope it does get the attention of some who blindly profess ObamaLove...

The denial of epidurals is a cost saver and nothing more. Traditional births...ha! And I say that as a mother of five (a couple w/epi’ a few w/o...and one a ten pounder!!!)
All that said, this should be about ‘choice.’ Isn’t that a favorite mantra of the Left? Telling a women she can’t have anesthesia is wrong...but instead of Lamaze ‘focusing’ the mom-to-be can channel her pain in visualizing acts of agression/vengence against those who denied her meds.

I think epi’s are great; so is stadol. There is a reason Anesthesiologists make in the high six figures...their pain management ‘works.’ I had my first completely natural, Lamaze breathing all the way...by the time I got to number five...I could ‘hear’ the med cart (with the wonderful doc) coming down the hall...


29 posted on 03/04/2009 8:55:51 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Are you an FBI Agent? Actually, I 'm a stay at home mom...)
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Yikes! This ought to get the attention of women supporters of nationalized healthcare!

Earlier today there was a thread which discussed how conservatives could reach out to women. I think this issue could be one!

I chose not to have an epidural, but I'd die (well, almost) for your right to have one.

30 posted on 03/04/2009 8:56:40 PM PST by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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I’d rather endure the labor pain. The thought of a needle in my spine gives me the heebiejeebies.


32 posted on 03/04/2009 8:58:20 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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I had 4 naturally. The only reason i didn’t choose an epidural was because i was more afraid of a needle in my spine but if there had been ANY other alternative to REAL pain relief , I would have been ALL OVER THAT!

come on! pooping is natural but they give enema’s
dying with pain is natural but they give morphine.

why in gods name can we give drugs for just about any other condition but when it comes to one of the most painful things a person can endure everyone wants a woman to just suck it up and suffer? why when we don’t HAVE to?


40 posted on 03/04/2009 9:03:44 PM PST by annelizly
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