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Blue-sky thinking
LLoyd's List ^ | 26 Jan 09 | Janet Porter

Posted on 03/03/2009 10:55:43 PM PST by GATOR NAVY

CAR carriers are the ugly sisters of the high seas. Even their owners would admit that, with their high freeboard, they are not beautiful. But they are very functional, designed for a specific purpose — to transport automobiles and trucks.

When Japanese motor manufacturers decided to go global some 30 years ago, they needed a different type of ship to transport vehicles in large volumes. Until relatively recently, this was a fairly simple business, with two main trade lanes, from Japan to the US, and Japan to Europe.

Since then it has become far more complicated. Like other sectors, it has had its ups and downs. But this time last year there was a shortage of capacity as traditional markets were complemented by new ones opening up in booming economies such as Russia and eastern Europe.

Now, however, operators are desperately trying to shed capacity. They have been hit in particular by a collapse in Japanese exports and unsold inventories. Scrapping, slow steaming and lay-up are all happening.

But can these ships be used for anything else? Transporting cattle has not proved a success, as the animals need a huge amount of fresh water. And it does not take much imagination to guess the other drawbacks. One line is considering converting vessels into student accommodation .

But with their massive car decks, can these great caverns be put to other uses? A theme park, maybe, or venue for rock concerts?

In these desperate times, there really is a need for some blue-sky thinking.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Japan
KEYWORDS: excesscapacity; japan

Student accommodations? Why not prison ships?

1 posted on 03/03/2009 10:55:44 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY

We may need them to transport all the money we are borrowing from China & India.


2 posted on 03/03/2009 10:59:05 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: papasmurf
We may need them to transport all the money we are borrowing from China & India.

Heck, I'll need that thing to carry just my money to buy a loaf of bread in the near future.

3 posted on 03/03/2009 11:20:05 PM PST by ParityErr (It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Transport vessels for carrying the inconceivable amounts of bullshit now produced in Washington, D.C. to disposal sites elsewhere.


4 posted on 03/03/2009 11:24:54 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Actually, with parking costing so much, especially in NYC, Chicago, etc., they could be used as parking garages. My Cousin tells me he pays $1600 a month for parking in Manhattan. I was floored.


5 posted on 03/03/2009 11:28:47 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: GATOR NAVY; Jeff Head
I've always wondered how those ships could cope with a rogue wave? Obviously smaller ships would be at real peril, but what about the behemoths of the sea? What would happen were they to get hit by a monster rogue?

Or are they (ahem ahem) 'too big to fail.'

What about aircraft carriers.

6 posted on 03/04/2009 12:02:35 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I saw one of these going up the Columbia River recently that looked rather like the picture. I wondered why it was not riding lower in the water if it was really full of cars.


7 posted on 03/04/2009 12:21:19 AM PST by wideminded
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To: wideminded

How many car dealers are there in Eastern Washington?


8 posted on 03/04/2009 1:36:50 AM PST by Misterioso (Obama was elected not in spite of his color but because of it.)
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To: Misterioso; GATOR NAVY
How many car dealers are there in Eastern Washington?

Probably not enough for one of these ships, and I doubt it would make it through the locks anyway, but I happened to see this one in Astoria. There are giant lots near Portland where they unload these ships. I see them going up and down the Columbia all the time, but I usually don't get to observe them so closely.

I was surprised how high in the water this one was riding, and I wondered if the economy meant there were fewer cars then usual, but maybe there is enough structure beneath the water that they always ride like that. Apparently the Columbia River channel has a depth of 40 feet.

9 posted on 03/04/2009 2:17:01 AM PST by wideminded
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To: GATOR NAVY

Convert part of it into tourist accommodation and let them drive their own cars while on vacation.


10 posted on 03/04/2009 2:27:27 AM PST by Nateman (FUBO and the Alinsky you rode in on!)
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To: GATOR NAVY

A ship like that will hold 100’s of M-1A Tanks.


11 posted on 03/04/2009 3:57:11 AM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: spetznaz

Oops.

On July 23, 2006, she was en route from Japan to Vancouver, British Columbia; Tacoma, Washington; and Port Hueneme, California, with a cargo of 4,812 vehicles. During a transfer of ballast water south of the Aleutian Islands, she lost stability and developed a 60-degree list to port. There were reports of a large wave striking the vessel during the ballast transfer, but it is unknown what effect this had on her loss of stability.

MV Cougar Ace

12 posted on 03/04/2009 8:35:18 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Nateman

That’s an interesting idea.


13 posted on 03/04/2009 8:36:14 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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