More Military Officers Demand eligibility proof

World Net Daily ^ | March 2, 2009 | Bob Unruh

[patriotgal1787]

Military officers from the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines are working with California attorney Orly Taitz and her Defend Our Freedoms Foundation, citing a legal right established in British common law nearly 800 years ago and recognized by the U.S. Founding Fathers to demand documentation that may prove – or disprove – Barack Obama's eligibility to be president.

Tonight -- "The Birthers" - legitimate question or nutjobs? The facts. We look at the facts. We go on the air at 9 pm ET on Radio Free Andrea

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[Eye of Unk]

Its time to forge a public militia.

[Michael Michael]

The only certainty is that he is:

A) spending a fortune trying to keep his birth circumstances hidden

There's no evidence he's spent any substantial amount of money on this. Someone just plucked a figure out of their fevered imagination, flung it out on the Internet, and it took on a life of its own.

The first time I recall seeing it it was something on the order of $50,000. Now people (Keyes for example) are claiming "millions."

It's a perfect example of how someone can just make something up out of thin air and there will be plenty of people who will swallow it without question.

All his lawyers have ever done is to file a handful of rather boilerplate motions in a handful of cases. I doubt what's been spent is even into five figures.

[TigersEye]

TigersEye here. I am a birther.

[Michael Michael]

You got a link to the law as it stood in 1961? I would like to throw down with the zero worshippers.

Here you go:

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, Title III, Chapter 1

The relevant portion is Section 301(a)(7), which reads:

a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of w11om is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than tell years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.

[pissant]

Uh huh. So we are now supposed to throw all common sense out the window because some chin wiping Obama troll on FR says its $50K, not millions as Keyes may have exaggerated?

[Michael Michael]

here’s a good discussion of it:

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html

No, it's not. "P.A Madison" is just an anonymous hack on the Internet who dreamed up the laughable argument that "natural born citizen" in Article II came from de Vattel, rather than English common law.

I'll take James Madison over the anonymous "P.A. Madison":

It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States;

James Madison, House of Representatives, May 22, 1789

[TigersEye]

His contesting of the lawsuits, and stonewalling of the demands to produce proof of his place of birth, creates the very reasonable inference that he is hiding the truth (as he has also concealed his medical, college and law school records).

That is exactly what is disturbing about him in general. What is known about him are all the Marxist, communist, broken family weirdness. The things you'd think he'd want to hold up highest, everything you mentioned above, are hidden. We probably know more about Octo-Mom.

[Michael Michael]

The left brought up John McCain's eligibility to be President, because he was born outside the US, in the Panama Canal Zone. He produced his BC...

That's incorrect. McCain never produced his birth certificate to the public.

The images on the Internet that people have claimed to be McCain's birth certificate were provided by a rather shady character named Donald Lamb, and they were used by Hollander AGAINST McCain in Hollander's eligibility lawsuit against McCain.

The birth certificates claimed to be McCain's actually refute McCain's claim that he was born at the family hospital at Coco Solo Naval Air Station. They birth certificates supplied by Donald Lamb show McCain to have been born at the Colon Hospital, in Colon, Panama.

So, either McCain is lying, or the documents provided by Lamb are forgeries.

Bottom line though, McCain never produced his birth certificate to the public.

[Michael Michael]

Welcome to FR. Read much?

Yes, I do. Including stuff like, the Constitution of the United States.

[pissant]

Apparently reading does not equate to understanding.

[Michael Michael]

Uh huh. So we are now supposed to throw all common sense out the window because some chin wiping Obama troll on FR says its $50K, not millions as Keyes may have exaggerated?

I didn't say Obama spent $50,000. I said $50,000 was the first figure I recall seeing claimed by some Birther. And over a rather short period of time, I saw the figure grow exponentially. First it was $50,000, then it was $80,000, then $100,000, then $200,000, then $500,000, then $800,000, and then the most recent figure mentioned by Keyes, "millions."

No one making claims of these figures has ever been able to cite any source for them. By all accounts, they were simply fabricated out of thin air.

[Michael Michael]

Apparently reading does not equate to understanding.

Then perhaps you'd care to clarify.

Where exactly did the Constitution empower Congress to define who was a natural born citizen?

[pissant]

Your use of birther exposes your sorry ass, chin wiper, or can I just call you C-dub for short?

See, C-dub, there have been several substantial cases where the law teams for Obama have been identified. And it would certainly be odd that they would file the same paperwork over and over in different jurisdictions to varying levels of courts, especially since there have been significant differences in some of the lawsuits. And unless you are bribing the judges, a good lawyer is paid to have a plan B, C and D ready to go as well.

A couple dozen cases, a minimum of 30 hours of lawyering each is going to well into the six figures, C-dub. But you knew that, cause you work for the marxist, don’t you C-dub?

[Michael Michael]

See, C-dub, there have been several substantial cases where the law teams for Obama have been identified.

What substantial cases? Perhaps the most substantial would be Berg's. I think Obama and the DNC have filed, what, two, maybe three motions in the entire case?

A couple dozen cases...

What couple of dozen cases have Obama's lawyers been involved with?

[Canedawg]

We probably know more about Octo-Mom.

She's probably get as much (or as little) security clearance as he would if they both were vetted correctly.

[RoadTest]

“The left brought up John McCain’s eligibility to be President, because he was born outside the US, in the Panama Canal Zone. He produced his BC...

That’s incorrect. McCain never produced his birth certificate to the public. “

In other words, The New World Order never gave us a choice at the polls? Two illegitimate nominees.

[Michael Michael]

In other words, The New World Order never gave us a choice at the polls? Two illegitimate nominees.

I've yet to see any credible evidence that Obama was illegitimate. Though Gabriel Chin makes a rather cogent argument that McCain technically was.

[Brit]

If the big O is found out and thrown out of office...would Biden take over? Or is that just too horrible to contemplate?

[Michael Michael]

If the big O is found out and thrown out of office...would Biden take over?

Yes.

[RoadTest]

“’ve yet to see any credible evidence that Obama was illegitimate.”

Only that his Liberal friends in the Hawaiian government are hiding his birth certificate.