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1 posted on 03/03/2009 4:40:07 PM PST by SJackson
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True, not all Indian likenesses are racist. Probably most. But in difficult economic times the state should be able to fine local school districts $1,000 a day if they want. As long as the federal government will replenish the locals funds.

2 posted on 03/03/2009 4:41:28 PM PST by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targetedÂ…no guaranteeÂ…theyÂ’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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In Wichita KS we have a HS North High and the mascot is the North High Red Skins. The HS is next to the Arkansas river which has a bridge over it by the school that has art deco Indian images on it.

At one time the powers to be at the school tried to become PC about the whole thing and take the NH Red Skins away and the alumni consisting of various racial origins said no.

The native American Indians of the area said that it was a show of honor for the mascots and that the Indians use to camp at that site where the school is now.

So not all people are against the use of human mascots to identify their schools with.

4 posted on 03/03/2009 4:52:56 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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I am Indian and here is my two cents. In my home town the high schools emblem is a Warrior with a war bonnet. Some have tried to make them change it many times over the last several years but the students and the school and in fact the local people of that area keep voting to keep it as it is. And that includes the local Indian tribe too.

Now all we need is horse's asses politicians to shove their agenda down our throats. Wake up America, it's Liberal Democrats that are taking over all our rights and freedoms.

5 posted on 03/03/2009 4:53:43 PM PST by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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Not all Indian likenesses are racist

I agree. We'll need some costumes

6 posted on 03/03/2009 4:53:57 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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Only leftist nitwits can think that human sports mascots are a dishonor. With the exception of a few oddities usually tied to local history (the OU Sooners, the Nebraska Cornhuskers and the Washburn Icabods spring readily to mind sitting here in Kansas) human mascots are usually chosen as a tribute to martial virtue (often martial virtue in a loosing cause):

The Minnesota Vikings and lots of small college and high school teams named the ‘Vikings’ in areas settled by Scandinavians, the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame, and (one of may favorites) the Yeshiva University Maccabees are all examples of this where folks of the same ethnicity chose to honor their warlike forebearers in this way. The USC Trojans, teams named the Cavaliers, or the Knights, or the Crusaders, just as the Braves, Chiefs, Seminoles, and the like do not dishonor those who fought under that name long-ago.

Only leftist loons who do not understand the concept of martial virtue seem to think so, and I would submit they should be resisted when in power, and devoutly ignored when just making noise about the issue.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 5:10:33 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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“State Rep. Jim Soletski, D-Green Bay”

Maybe we can raise a statue of Poles grinding a Nazi face, that looks like Soletski, into the dirt. Of course, that would fly completely over the head of this little fascist puke Soletski. I like my Anishnabe Indian friends. He wouldn’t know the difference between a medicine lodge (midiwin) and a whore who soaps him up in the shower.


10 posted on 03/03/2009 5:18:23 PM PST by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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11 posted on 03/03/2009 5:20:26 PM PST by I got the rope
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Well, we called them “braves” and “warriors”.
Noble savages, so to speak.
All honorable designations.

But I guess we were wrong, because seems they are more of the whining, wuss, wimp type.


12 posted on 03/03/2009 5:21:27 PM PST by djf (I saw a werewolf drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic's... and his hair was PERFECT!!)
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I think that every time there is a complaint, the local school should rename the team after a European people or tribe, e.g. Saxons, Vikings, Trojans, Spartans, Centurions, Templars, Normans, Picts, Celts, Franks, etc. An occasional Minutemen or Pioneers would also be good.

I wonder how long it would be until their were complaints that all the school mascots were European.

13 posted on 03/03/2009 5:22:51 PM PST by SampleMan (Socialism and Liberty are mutually exclusive.)
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Many of the Indian warriors were outstandingly brave. They faced incredible odds as they defended their homelands against an enemy they couldn’t understand.

Almost without exception they fiercely fought the enemy, often giving their very lives in a hopeless battle, yet they fought on.

These are not the kind of people Liberals want remembered, in fact, they want to erase any and every thought that such bravery even once existed. Liberals hate the idea of bravery nearly as much as they hate a capitalist America.

To remember a brave Indian is to inspire others to live and act with bravery.

That’s why every vestige of brave Indians must be removed from our very memories. Indians are to be remembered as nothing more than drunken bums, victims of white, capitalist Americans, dependent on government for their very livelihood.


17 posted on 03/03/2009 5:31:23 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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Sure is good to know that all other challenges in WI have been solved so the legislators have time to issue edicts like this.


23 posted on 03/03/2009 6:08:53 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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I used to make beaded jewelry and wear it around. Then I started getting glared at or yelled at, and called a racist because the pattern I thought was “neat looking” happened to belong to this culture or that culture. I’d learned as a kid that for some reason I wasn’t allowed to wear certain styles, no matter how pretty I thought they were because somebody was always insulted by what I wore. Heck, I started wearing all one color (black) so hopefully no one would be offended, and people still yell at me for THAT.

White people aren’t allowed to be ethnic. Which is too bad, because I think there are some gorgeous things out there. I’m not trying to insult anyone, I’m not trying to lay claim to someone else’s culture, I just like pretty things.


25 posted on 03/03/2009 7:30:27 PM PST by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run...Country folks CAN survive!!! -Hank Jr.)
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BTW when you hear somebody talking about “Native Americans”, you know he’s a politically correct BS-er.

A quick glance at any of their campaign ads for casinos shows that they refer to themselves as Indians in the “Paid for by...” text at the end of the ad.

And that’s the rule not the exception. As one personally explained to me some time ago, if Russia had taken over the USA in WW3 and renamed it West Russia, would you happily start calling yourself a “Native West Russian”?


27 posted on 03/03/2009 7:57:51 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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..."It's the Native Americans' heritage, first and foremost. If they're not feeling honored,..."

....Then Tough $h|+. Grow a thicker skin. Americans are tired of your nonsense. Maybe in your next life your people will be victorious, instead of vanquished.

29 posted on 03/04/2009 8:25:36 AM PST by I Buried My Guns
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