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NC military mom heads for Fort Benning with kids (recalled, braves winter storm)
Yahoo ^ | 3/01/09 | TOM FOREMAN Jr.

Posted on 03/01/2009 3:40:30 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Libloather

this is the problem I have always had with women in combat operations. Women have always been the primary nurturer of children and many women are assigned overseas away from their family. The breakup of family unit with Mom away, I believe is a dangerous social experiment. There are many military single moms.

Also, the number of women who become pregnant while on overseas assignments or out at sea, we’ve read is considerable.


21 posted on 03/01/2009 4:26:24 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: madison10; Libloather
"Why do they need to call back a mother with kids four years after her discharge?"

Young American men will not enlist in large enough numbers.

Even though the military is pretty small now they still need people and if the girlfriends and the moms have to fill in for the young men of this generation then it will have to do.

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22 posted on 03/01/2009 4:26:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: 2banana
Depends. You have eight years, so if you do 4 years active, you get to do 4 years in the IRR. Benefits are minimal, I think you can maintain an ID card and get some PX privileges, but most don't live by a base. Really nothing of value to mention.

Bottom line, I would have to think the Army is going to have to ensure she gets daycare for the kids. You cannot honestly expect people to put their lives on hold while on the IRR in anticipation for a activation.

23 posted on 03/01/2009 4:27:13 PM PST by lt.america (Looking for a bailout)
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To: Liberty Ship
I don’t see how you can be Honorably Discharged and still be in the IRR.

When I quit to finish my degree and get my Commission I immediately received an Honorable Discharge even though I was committed to be in the IRR for a year after.

I received discharge papers from the IRR a year later but my Honorable was from my active duty time.

This may have changed since I did that back in the very early 1980s.

24 posted on 03/01/2009 4:27:38 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Libloather

I’m a Florida boy. Doesn’t get much more southern than that. Part of being a southern man is honoring one’s commitments.


25 posted on 03/01/2009 4:29:55 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: cdpap

you have to “report” once a year — I think.

The LTC (hubby to those not regular live thread FReeper)
is in the IRR — he has served (I think if I count right)

4 years active enlisted — 68-72
2 years IRR 72-74
2 years Cadet and 79-81
simultanious service
26 years Infantry Officer 81-08
Reserve and NG
he now has until 2010 in IRR until he is eligible for his pension. IRR can be recalled until their commitment is up. Officers can be recalled basically for life


26 posted on 03/01/2009 4:31:46 PM PST by acsrp38 (greedy -- bitter clinger)
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To: Yakima

An 8 year total obligation means exactly that. She is being called back within her 8 years of obligation. Get it? God, you folks sound as squishy as tadpoles.


27 posted on 03/01/2009 4:32:24 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: conservative cat
“I am kind-of thinking she is not in the wrong, also, unless I hear something drastic to change my mind.”

If she is a Reserve, then she is wrong. She would be drawing a monthly check and have lots of other benefits.

She could have finished her duty and said I am through with this.
But she must have elected to take the benefits of Reserve.
So she will have to serve.
My friends son has just finished his time in the Reserve, he stayed long enough to complete his 20 years. He was sent to Africa on his last deployment.

28 posted on 03/01/2009 4:33:26 PM PST by DaltonNC
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To: OldMissileer
Sounds like hubby, he did simultaneous service though. Took his ROTC and served in Reserves for two years. He then had two years to finish his degree or be PFC again for 6 years
29 posted on 03/01/2009 4:35:16 PM PST by acsrp38 (greedy -- bitter clinger)
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To: DaltonNC

IRR doesn’t get paid or attend drill, they do have to “report” once a year.
I think they may get either 2 or 4 points for that. It’s like attending one weekend drill.


30 posted on 03/01/2009 4:37:09 PM PST by acsrp38 (greedy -- bitter clinger)
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To: ExpatGator

exactly


31 posted on 03/01/2009 4:38:19 PM PST by acsrp38 (greedy -- bitter clinger)
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To: acsrp38

someone hasn’t been checking this woman’s plan, have they?
Since she has filed for hardship and been reviewed and denied, I trust that the military is not at fault here.


32 posted on 03/01/2009 4:42:07 PM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: elpadre

The majority of single parents in the US Army are men.


33 posted on 03/01/2009 4:42:44 PM PST by csmusaret (You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
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To: elpadre; AT7Saluki
This is the problem I have always had with women in combat operations. Women have always been the primary nurturer of children and many women are assigned overseas away from their family.

My kiddo is a National Guard recruiter. He needs to know Army rules, local laws, state laws along with federal laws. If some chump shows up to sign up with a so-called dependent from some other married woman? Woah - that's a problem that the Army doesn't want. The dependent thang is huge.

34 posted on 03/01/2009 4:42:57 PM PST by Libloather (What did one polar bear say to another polar bear? "Dang, its cold out here...")
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To: patton

not me hubby — about 36 years total.

Last year was classified “medically non-deployable” - had benign brain tumor


35 posted on 03/01/2009 4:45:00 PM PST by acsrp38 (greedy -- bitter clinger)
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To: ExpatGator
Part of being a southern man is honoring one’s commitments.

And - listening to John Boy & Billy.

36 posted on 03/01/2009 4:45:38 PM PST by Libloather (What did one polar bear say to another polar bear? "Dang, its cold out here...")
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To: Yakima
She enlisted for 2 or 4 years and had a 8 year total obligation. Almost enlistment contracts are written this way. She did get out normally.

What's wrong is a first enlistment 8 year contract. It's stupid and it's insane. For second enlistments where career is the objective? Sure! To an 18 or 20 year old who has never been in the military? No it's a bad deal for both the service member and the military in general. Return all first term enlistments to 4/2 or 3/3 and no more until after the three year active duty mark is reached where most military career decisions {re-up or leave at EAOS} are usually beginning to be made. The military has in several ways created this problem looking at short term gians and not long term problems.

In short all an 8 year enlistment amounts to is avoiding the over 10 year old issue of raising needed End Troop Strength Levels Active Duty in all branches.

37 posted on 03/01/2009 4:54:39 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: 2banana

“You also are drawing benefits (like adding to your military pension and education benefits).”

Not really

“And, IT WAS HER DECISION to join the IRR.”

Its part of everyones enlistment, you imply theres a choice she made when she seperated.

“She could have got out completely.”

Once you sign up for active you are committed to 8 years.

They force a woman like this to go active and then let some deserter go free without anything but a bad conduct. Thats wrong.


38 posted on 03/01/2009 4:58:32 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Libloather

Sounds like failure to plan on her part.


39 posted on 03/01/2009 5:04:22 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: driftdiver
They force a woman like this to go active and then let some deserter go free without anything but a bad conduct. Thats wrong.

Reminds me of the days during Rummy's first tenure as Sec of Defense under Ford. You wanted out? No problem just walk off 31 days and turn yourself in at another command and get processed out. Although back then there wasn't 8 year first enlistment commitments nor that many women deployed overseas except on regular active duty.

40 posted on 03/01/2009 5:06:25 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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