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The Goldwater Myth
The New Majority ^
| February 27, 2009
| David Frum
Posted on 02/28/2009 7:55:28 PM PST by EveningStar
...The Goldwater myth shuts down all attempts to reform and renew our conservative message for modern times. And it offers a handy justification for nominating a 2012 presidential candidate who might otherwise seem disastrously unelectable...
(Excerpt) Read more at newmajority.com ...
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carter; davidfrum; frum; goldwater; newmajority; reagan; rebranding
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To: EveningStar
I’m not too concerned about who the GOP nominee is at this point. Either Obama will succeed, and no GOPer will defeat him, or he will fail and any GOPer will defeat him.
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posted on
02/28/2009 7:57:48 PM PST
by
Brilliant
To: EveningStar
Frum's favorite myth is that Rockefeller or Scranton might have gotten more votes.
Not likely.
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posted on
02/28/2009 7:57:55 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: Brilliant
Im not too concerned about who the GOP nominee is at this point. Either Obama will succeed, and no GOPer will defeat him, or he will fail and any GOPer will defeat him. It's the "any GOPer" that I fear, should Obama fail.
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posted on
02/28/2009 7:59:58 PM PST
by
Gondring
(Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
To: EveningStar
Good grief, why even bother posting something from a discredited know-nothing like Frum?
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Debate is good for the mind.
To: Gondring
It's the "any GOPer" that I fear, should Obama fail. I'd have to agree with you there.
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Hey Barack HUSSEIN Obama, I went to Harvard too! That was the worst fieldtrip of my life, but I went there...

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posted on
02/28/2009 8:02:24 PM PST
by
rdb3
(The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
To: muawiyah
But he has a very good point that is illustrated by the fact that picking up a million extra votes in an already red state is worth less than changing a state from blue to red.
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:02:35 PM PST
by
Gondring
(Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
To: Brilliant
In other words, “Experts agree: Obama’s re-election chance is either dead or alive.” All we need is the CNN screenshot.
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:02:42 PM PST
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: EveningStar
As we should have learned with Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, the GOP wins when it stands on firm conservative principles. When the party tries to out-”moderate” the DemocRAT “moderates” we lose. It is that simple.
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:03:03 PM PST
by
advance_copy
(Stand for life or nothing at all)
To: EveningStar
No it isn’t.
(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:03:23 PM PST
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: Common Tator
To: EveningStar
The New Mawhority can go to hell. The way they have done everything within their power to screw conservative Republican candidates has earned reciprocation.
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:04:03 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
To: coloradan
To: Gondring
Changing a state from blue to red might be worth more provided you don’t also turn some of the red states to blue (such as happened in this Obama thing).
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:06:36 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: EveningStar
As it happens, we nominated the guy that Frum supported in '08 -- and, for our troubles, we're getting socialism.
What's the point of nominating a McCain if it means you're going to get an Obama?
Frum is a well-meaning -- and very influential -- idiot.
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:10:38 PM PST
by
okie01
(THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
To: muawiyah
You mean the Rockefeller myth or Christine Todd Whitman myth favored by country clubbers and progressive moderates?
The problem with that was always that Bobby Kennedy or Ted Kennedy could probably do what Nelson Rockefeller wanted to try better. There is no reason for conservatives to vote for a progressive Republican if there is Democrat around who can do just as much damage to the country.
To: muawiyah
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posted on
02/28/2009 8:11:35 PM PST
by
Gondring
(Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
To: Gondring
Yeah? Tell us how Frum’s guy did in 2008 again?
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