Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Goldwater Myth
The New Majority ^ | February 27, 2009 | David Frum

Posted on 02/28/2009 7:55:28 PM PST by EveningStar

...The Goldwater myth shuts down all attempts to reform and renew our conservative message for modern times. And it offers a handy justification for nominating a 2012 presidential candidate who might otherwise seem disastrously unelectable...

(Excerpt) Read more at newmajority.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carter; davidfrum; frum; goldwater; newmajority; reagan; rebranding
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last
H/T Allahpundit at Hot Air
1 posted on 02/28/2009 7:55:28 PM PST by EveningStar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

I’m not too concerned about who the GOP nominee is at this point. Either Obama will succeed, and no GOPer will defeat him, or he will fail and any GOPer will defeat him.


2 posted on 02/28/2009 7:57:48 PM PST by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar
Frum's favorite myth is that Rockefeller or Scranton might have gotten more votes.

Not likely.

3 posted on 02/28/2009 7:57:55 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
I’m not too concerned about who the GOP nominee is at this point. Either Obama will succeed, and no GOPer will defeat him, or he will fail and any GOPer will defeat him.

It's the "any GOPer" that I fear, should Obama fail.

4 posted on 02/28/2009 7:59:58 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

Good grief, why even bother posting something from a discredited know-nothing like Frum?


5 posted on 02/28/2009 8:01:09 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Jesus and the Apostles were Sola Scriptura)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Debate is good for the mind.


6 posted on 02/28/2009 8:02:10 PM PST by EveningStar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Gondring
It's the "any GOPer" that I fear, should Obama fail.

I'd have to agree with you there.

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.

Hey Barack HUSSEIN Obama, I went to Harvard too! That was the worst fieldtrip of my life, but I went there...


7 posted on 02/28/2009 8:02:24 PM PST by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

But he has a very good point that is illustrated by the fact that picking up a million extra votes in an already red state is worth less than changing a state from blue to red.


8 posted on 02/28/2009 8:02:35 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

In other words, “Experts agree: Obama’s re-election chance is either dead or alive.” All we need is the CNN screenshot.


9 posted on 02/28/2009 8:02:42 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: al baby; Allegra; Berlin_Freeper; BJClinton; Borges; Brad's Gramma; ChocChipCookie; ...
Miscellaneous Ping List

This is a general interest list. We cover everything from the sublime to the ridiculous.

If you want on or off this ping list, please FReepmail me.

10 posted on 02/28/2009 8:02:58 PM PST by EveningStar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

As we should have learned with Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, the GOP wins when it stands on firm conservative principles. When the party tries to out-”moderate” the DemocRAT “moderates” we lose. It is that simple.


11 posted on 02/28/2009 8:03:03 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

No it isn’t.

(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)


12 posted on 02/28/2009 8:03:23 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Common Tator

ping


13 posted on 02/28/2009 8:03:44 PM PST by EveningStar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar
The New Mawhority can go to hell. The way they have done everything within their power to screw conservative Republican candidates has earned reciprocation.
14 posted on 02/28/2009 8:04:03 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: coloradan

:)


15 posted on 02/28/2009 8:04:28 PM PST by EveningStar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Gondring

Changing a state from blue to red might be worth more provided you don’t also turn some of the red states to blue (such as happened in this Obama thing).


16 posted on 02/28/2009 8:06:36 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar
As it happens, we nominated the guy that Frum supported in '08 -- and, for our troubles, we're getting socialism.

What's the point of nominating a McCain if it means you're going to get an Obama?

Frum is a well-meaning -- and very influential -- idiot.

17 posted on 02/28/2009 8:10:38 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
You mean the Rockefeller myth or Christine Todd Whitman myth favored by country clubbers and progressive moderates?

The problem with that was always that Bobby Kennedy or Ted Kennedy could probably do what Nelson Rockefeller wanted to try better. There is no reason for conservatives to vote for a progressive Republican if there is Democrat around who can do just as much damage to the country.

18 posted on 02/28/2009 8:11:12 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

Agreed.


19 posted on 02/28/2009 8:11:35 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Gondring

Yeah? Tell us how Frum’s guy did in 2008 again?


20 posted on 02/28/2009 8:16:24 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson