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I'm all over various and different threads speaking out against Libertarianism and their stated goals to legalize drugs. And to tax them.

(The irony that taxing anything leads to bigger government; yet taxing dope is OK seems to escape them.)

But.... Free Republic is very liberal with respect to moral issues. And Libertarians rule this place.

So I'll stand down and allows the libs to bring on today's insults.

1 posted on 02/28/2009 8:55:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Having both legalized marijuana and the food police is like putting a humidifier and a dehumidifier in a room at the same time.


2 posted on 02/28/2009 8:59:52 AM PST by bgill
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But.... Free Republic is very liberal with respect to moral issues. And Libertarians rule this place.

Oh really?

3 posted on 02/28/2009 8:59:53 AM PST by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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‘And Libertarians rule this place.’

Satire? FR is a Conservative site, not a Libertarian one.

On drugs, the US had legal drugs up to 1909, we did okay.

Now we have our friend to the South on the verge of collapse. Joy.

4 posted on 02/28/2009 9:00:22 AM PST by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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This libertarian wants to see an end to the failed drug war, not new taxes.


5 posted on 02/28/2009 9:01:32 AM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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Well, considering that the Fed’s are not going to be going after pot anymore, they BETTER legalize it or we will have Mexican gangs living in our national forests growing weed. THAT is NOT something we need. If they don’t legalize it and regulate it we will have Mexican drug wars HERE inside our borders and no one will be able to go into the forests.

I have to wonder if these artards EVER think things all the way through. For certain, not enforcing the laws is going to lead to violence if they don’t regulate it.


6 posted on 02/28/2009 9:02:14 AM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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Do you drink beer or wine?

Its taxed and going to go higher.

Smoke?

Taxes are going up also if you can find a place to smoke.

Liberals, Libertarians and Conservatives can find some areas that are a bit mushy finding a few from the other side in their corner.

Me? The big problem with legalizing drugs will be the great number of “victims” added to the roles of SSI.

7 posted on 02/28/2009 9:02:45 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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A lot of people who aren’t Libertarians are for legalizing marijuana too. Most people who are for legalizing marijuana are not for legalizing all drugs.


8 posted on 02/28/2009 9:02:46 AM PST by SmallGovRepub
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Personally, I am in favor of legalizing marijuana. It’s not a bigger public health problem than alcohol, and we allow that.


11 posted on 02/28/2009 9:03:33 AM PST by Brilliant
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I wonder when drugs will become mandatory?
12 posted on 02/28/2009 9:03:42 AM PST by svcw
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If you tax it, you make it more expensive to produce legally, thus helping the drug cartels (or so we hear)

I’m ok with people growing for their own use but I don’t want to pay for the rainbow of new laws that would be enacted to deal with that.

For those who claim to want it legal to end cartel violence. You’re lying. If you really wanted to end the cartel violence you would quit smoking it. I did and I survived just fine. Changing laws takes years and sometimes never happens, quitting only takes an instant and achieves the same result much faster and cheaper.


13 posted on 02/28/2009 9:03:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Taxing and spending are 2 entirely separate issues. This is true because politicians never let a lack of tax money stop them from spending. Legalizing drugs or not will have 0 influence on spending.

Perhaps if drugs are legalized, we'll see fewer SWAT teams busting down peoples' doors on trumped up drug charges.

14 posted on 02/28/2009 9:04:17 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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I think you are missing the larger issue here.

Government isn’t our nanny. We should have the right to be stupid.

Once government becomes our nanny we are screwed.

21 posted on 02/28/2009 9:09:09 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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One hundred years ago there were no laws restricting drugs. The original stimulant in Coca Cola was cocaine. Then they had to add caffeine because cocaine was made illegal.

Those of you who are against legalizing marijuana and consume an occasional beer or a glass of wine, I have only one word to describe people who have that attitude - hypocrites.


22 posted on 02/28/2009 9:09:10 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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The human wreckage and waste, not only moral degradation that legalizing drugs would create would be the last nail in this country's coffin.

Moral strength and fortitude, clean sober thinking and morality is what gave this country it's greatness in the first place. In other words, you can make a pig into bacon, but you can't make bacon back into a pig.

Any argument to the contrary is pure insanity and has no merit.

28 posted on 02/28/2009 9:13:06 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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If all libertarians care about is dope right now, screw them. There are more important things to be concerned with. How about real and actual FREEDOM?


33 posted on 02/28/2009 9:18:49 AM PST by BobS
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And Libertarians rule this place.

The are just a big squeaky wheel but they have no real power. You need to learn to ignore them more.

35 posted on 02/28/2009 9:19:56 AM PST by bmwcyle (The end is near and this time I mean it. Get right with JESUS NOW!)
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This may be a way to soothe the pain of all the new taxes we are going to be hit with out here.


36 posted on 02/28/2009 9:20:16 AM PST by Lou Budvis ( 'Benjamin Franklin and Jefferson are rolling in their graves.')
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The strongest drug I use is black coffee unless dark chocolate (to which I am unashamedly addicted) is a drug.

That being said, if some fool wants to waste his life stoned on a salad green I don't like, that's his problem. I am not willing to part with tax dollars to protect fools from their folly.

I am unconvinced that usage or availability would substantially increase if it were legalized. Alcohol was readily available during prohibition and anyone who really wanted it could get it. If marijuana were legally available tomorrow, I would avoid it as I do alcohol and tobacco now. I think most people would as well.

38 posted on 02/28/2009 9:21:11 AM PST by muir_redwoods (The president is an ass)
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My ideal would be a repeal of federal drug laws and a selective, non-uniform application of relaxed state drug laws to nuisance users and to violent criminals (in the latter case, to keep them in jail longer), but a “look the other way” policy regarding individuals who enjoy their vice in private and can handle the “side-effects”. No more drug raids on homes, getting the address wrong and shooting grandma and the dog. Or PDs wasting money on buying equipment to detect heat signatures.

I realize drugs “cause” problems, and I fully support the elimination from society of those members who cannot handle their chit. Criminalizing the drug is a poor substitute for properly, permanently dealing with real crimes - the equivalent of banning guns because of gun-related crimes, or pencils because of spelling errors.


40 posted on 02/28/2009 9:23:20 AM PST by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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I won't insult you. I'll just say that pot should have never been made illegal in the first place. The way we've decimates our Constitution to catch people who have pot or other "drugs" is ridiculous.

The drug war is a failure just as prohibition was.
47 posted on 02/28/2009 9:32:57 AM PST by mysterio
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