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Security video shows deputy's alleged assault on girl, 15
KOMO TV NEWS ^ | 27 Feb 2009 | Komo Staff

Posted on 02/27/2009 5:39:58 PM PST by microgood

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To: ktscarlett66
Gee whiz, I was on the girl's side up until you made your comments.

No doubt she was thinking such thoughts and how she could trick the cop so she could break out.

Yup, break out ~ every prisoner has those thoughts ~ she'd already broken out of her home and stolen her mother's car, so why not top that with a jailbreak.

Bet she'd get big ju-ju at school for that one.

Cop was correct ~ this little cookie was willing to kill him to escape. He had a reasonable fear for his life.

181 posted on 02/28/2009 5:47:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: D-fendr
If the girl's actions suggested in any way that she would be willing to kill the cop just to get out of the lockup I'd accept some pretty aggressive behavior on his part.

This was clearly her second attempt at escape that day.

182 posted on 02/28/2009 5:50:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

So, if the girl, let’s say prior to the video, made fists, snarled, and said, “I’ll kill you if you put me in that cell.”..

In your view, if this occurred the LEO is exculpated for his actions on the video.

Is that a correct statement of your opinion?


183 posted on 02/28/2009 5:53:19 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Let's see what she said. He's hired to "process such people". However, as they teach you in Army Basic Training (and elsewhere) prisoners, when first caught, are the most dangerous since that's the healthiest they'll ever be while in captivity, and they will make every attempt to escape ~ and you might get killed in the effort.

BTW, you are also taught the same thing just in case you get caught.

If she said anything about harming or killing him, that's his defense. Her behavior certainly indicates her intention to leave the premises ~ even if she has to hurt some one.

184 posted on 02/28/2009 6:01:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ozarkgirl
This story is all over the internet now. Quote from the online UK Telegraph:

Daniel Satterberg, the county prosecutor, said: "We believe this case is beyond just police misconduct, it's criminal misconduct. This is clearly excessive force."

185 posted on 02/28/2009 6:37:57 PM PST by Ken H
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To: muawiyah
Cop was correct ~ this little cookie was willing to kill him to escape. He had a reasonable fear for his life.

He probably saw his action as the only possibility he had if he ever wanted to see his family again.
186 posted on 02/28/2009 6:45:36 PM PST by microgood
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
she threw one shoe at him and was preparing to throw the next.

Actually she lightly tossed her left shoe toward him using her foot. She did not retract her leg, so the shoe had almost no velocity. From the trajectory, the shoe might have reached the height of his knee at best. Yet your description makes it sound like she was genuinely trying to cause the officer physical harm by throwing the shoe forcefully at him. What you describe simply did not happen.

Did she put her hands up in a fighting stance? Yes.

No, she crossed her arms until the officer raced into the cell, at which point she uncrossed her arms in an obviously instinctive move to protect herself from his onslaught.

She received two blows once on the ground and while her hands were beneath her body, where they can’t be cuffed, and once the hands came out from under her, she received no further blows.

Again, no. Look at the video. She put her left hand forward to protect herself from impacting the floor. The second officer grabbed that hand and pulled it around behind her. While the video could be clearer, it appears to me that the first officer then took that left hand from the second officer, and the second backed off slightly. The first officer then hit her twice with his right fist while he was holding her left wrist with his left hand. While he did that, the second officer, who by that time is clearly no longer holding onto her left wrist, holds her head or shoulder down with his left hand.

Just to be clear: The first officer hit her twice while she was face down, and he was holding her left hand behind her back. Neither officer was in any danger of being assaulted while the first one beat her.

But since it’s a “girl” it looks worse....had it been a grown man nobody would care.

I would.

187 posted on 02/28/2009 6:47:56 PM PST by TChad
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To: floridavoter2
Pricks like this guy give cops a bad name...

And cops like this give pricks a bad name.

188 posted on 02/28/2009 6:53:28 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: TChad; TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Looks more like they are trying to keep from getting bitten.

Could be this girl was exhibiting signs of being intoxicated with some unknown substance. There's enough experience with that sort of thing to be quick on your toes around prisoners.

We had a young kid across the river in Maryland who managed to pull a pistol out of a custodial officer's holster and kill him and his associate while he was still cuffed.

189 posted on 02/28/2009 6:58:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Looks more like they are trying to keep from getting bitten.

While she is face down on the floor and her left hand is being held behind her back? This isn't The Exorcist.

190 posted on 02/28/2009 7:03:31 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad
Lot more action with that little gal than anyone should be comfortable with.

Still looks like she's got her mouth open ~ wonder if Daniel Satterberg has ever been bitten?

191 posted on 02/28/2009 7:04:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TChad
The prosecutor's office is saying additional charges are possible. I wonder if he could be referring to obstruction of justice and/or perjury. From the Seattle P-!:

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"If the matter were to go to trial, he could face additional charges," said Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff in the Prosecutor's Office.

In his own report from the incident, Schene wrote that the shoe hit him in the right shin, "causing injury and pain." He wrote that he "placed" her into handcuffs and that she needed medical attention for a "panic attack."

He said a "blood filled pocket" formed on his shin, requiring treatment at Auburn General Hospital, according to his report. The video, however, appears to show his shin strike a metal toilet as he pushes the girl against the wall.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/401779_schene28.html

192 posted on 02/28/2009 7:05:25 PM PST by Ken H
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To: muawiyah
Lot more action with that little gal than anyone should be comfortable with.

Should the discomfort of a police officer justify his assault on a subdued prisoner?

193 posted on 02/28/2009 7:09:20 PM PST by TChad
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To: Ken H
He said a "blood filled pocket" formed on his shin, requiring treatment at Auburn General Hospital, according to his report. The video, however, appears to show his shin strike a metal toilet as he pushes the girl against the wall.

A wienie and a liar, picking on a 15 year old girl. Sounds like just what the force does not need.

194 posted on 02/28/2009 7:13:01 PM PST by ozarkgirl (I'll keep my money, my freedom and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: muawiyah

“Maybe a good beatdown is what this individual really needs ~ although that’s probably against the law, and the goodtwoshoes wouldn’t like it, and the cop’s in trouble. “

The job of a cop should be to impartially enforce the law not to beat the crap out of people he thinks deserves it.


195 posted on 02/28/2009 7:14:22 PM PST by DemonDeac
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To: TChad

She wasn’t subdued ~ NO CUFFS ON HER. She obviously wasn’t intending to let them do that.


196 posted on 02/28/2009 7:15:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: tupac

“She deserved it.”

She probably does deserve to have her butt kicked but that isn’t the job for cops.


197 posted on 02/28/2009 7:16:30 PM PST by DemonDeac
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To: ozarkgirl

He would have not ordinarily smacked the toilet with his shin had she not thrown her whing-ding.


198 posted on 02/28/2009 7:16:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Wolfie

“I keep waiting to see some LEO behavior that won’t be excused by the bootlickers. Hasn’t happened yet. Probably won’t ever.”

Some people on here worship any kind of authority. They would excuse anything from somebody with a badge. Anything. It really is quite scary to see some of the things these people defend.


199 posted on 02/28/2009 7:19:50 PM PST by DemonDeac
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To: ozarkgirl

He would have not ordinarily smacked the toilet with his shin had she not thrown her whing-ding.


200 posted on 02/28/2009 7:20:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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