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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
she threw one shoe at him and was preparing to throw the next.

Actually she lightly tossed her left shoe toward him using her foot. She did not retract her leg, so the shoe had almost no velocity. From the trajectory, the shoe might have reached the height of his knee at best. Yet your description makes it sound like she was genuinely trying to cause the officer physical harm by throwing the shoe forcefully at him. What you describe simply did not happen.

Did she put her hands up in a fighting stance? Yes.

No, she crossed her arms until the officer raced into the cell, at which point she uncrossed her arms in an obviously instinctive move to protect herself from his onslaught.

She received two blows once on the ground and while her hands were beneath her body, where they can’t be cuffed, and once the hands came out from under her, she received no further blows.

Again, no. Look at the video. She put her left hand forward to protect herself from impacting the floor. The second officer grabbed that hand and pulled it around behind her. While the video could be clearer, it appears to me that the first officer then took that left hand from the second officer, and the second backed off slightly. The first officer then hit her twice with his right fist while he was holding her left wrist with his left hand. While he did that, the second officer, who by that time is clearly no longer holding onto her left wrist, holds her head or shoulder down with his left hand.

Just to be clear: The first officer hit her twice while she was face down, and he was holding her left hand behind her back. Neither officer was in any danger of being assaulted while the first one beat her.

But since it’s a “girl” it looks worse....had it been a grown man nobody would care.

I would.

187 posted on 02/28/2009 6:47:56 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad; TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Looks more like they are trying to keep from getting bitten.

Could be this girl was exhibiting signs of being intoxicated with some unknown substance. There's enough experience with that sort of thing to be quick on your toes around prisoners.

We had a young kid across the river in Maryland who managed to pull a pistol out of a custodial officer's holster and kill him and his associate while he was still cuffed.

189 posted on 02/28/2009 6:58:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TChad
The prosecutor's office is saying additional charges are possible. I wonder if he could be referring to obstruction of justice and/or perjury. From the Seattle P-!:

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"If the matter were to go to trial, he could face additional charges," said Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff in the Prosecutor's Office.

In his own report from the incident, Schene wrote that the shoe hit him in the right shin, "causing injury and pain." He wrote that he "placed" her into handcuffs and that she needed medical attention for a "panic attack."

He said a "blood filled pocket" formed on his shin, requiring treatment at Auburn General Hospital, according to his report. The video, however, appears to show his shin strike a metal toilet as he pushes the girl against the wall.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/401779_schene28.html

192 posted on 02/28/2009 7:05:25 PM PST by Ken H
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