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Neo-Nazis Plotting 'Fourth Reich' in Germany
The Telegraph ^ | 1/26/09 | Allan Hall

Posted on 02/26/2009 12:08:33 PM PST by nickcarraway

A defector from Germany's hard-core neo-Nazi party the NPD has painted a chilling picture of the rise of new Hitler worshippers and their plans to build the "Fourth Reich".

Uwe Luthardt was a senior member of the NPD but quit to inform on the party which Germany tried unsuccessfully to ban several years ago.

He told of weapons stores and how members greet each other with "Heil Hitler" salutes, sing the banned songs of the Third Reich and relish the idea of a new Holocaust against the Jews.

Last year neo-Nazi attacks in Germany reached an all-time high and authorities are battling to stop youngsters from being attracted to the politics of the right – particularly now that Germany is in a deep recession and jobs are being lost by the thousands every day.

Luthardt, a former board member of the party, said he was threatened that he could "disappear" if he informed on its inner workings.

"Someone who just quits usually gets a lot of problems, and can find himself waking up in intensive care," he said.

"It wasn't really my world. When you went along to evening meetings, you saw all the shaven heads, and a black sun or other Nazi symbols tattooed on arms. They usually just boozed or were abusive. If there's no opponent around, they just fight among themselves.

"Many have an IQ close to my shoe size. Most of them are simply failures: failed pupils, people who dropped out of school or their apprenticeships, alcoholics that can't find a foothold anywhere else, thugs. But every local organisation has three to five men who don't have criminal records.

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He said old Nazis living in South America still donate to the party and other funds come from the staging of skinhead-music concerts.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: germany; nazis
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1 posted on 02/26/2009 12:08:33 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

There is even a “fourth Reich” in Yahoo! Groups under Micronations. It scared me a second until I realized there is one member.


2 posted on 02/26/2009 12:11:26 PM PST by I Hate Obama
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To: nickcarraway

This is news? Isn’t this the aim of Neo-Nazis all along?


3 posted on 02/26/2009 12:12:14 PM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: I Hate Obama

It may be that the german members are not on that site.

This was already predicted by Constance Cumbie in her book “The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow”, which I read in late 80’s.


4 posted on 02/26/2009 12:15:10 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: nickcarraway

What is their pre-occupation with Jews? Never could understand that.


5 posted on 02/26/2009 12:15:38 PM PST by perchprism
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What a nonsense story... Don’t worry about BHO turning the U.S. into a socialist basketcase, be worried about nazi’s coming to a town near you...


6 posted on 02/26/2009 12:18:27 PM PST by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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To: perchprism

Satanic inspiration.


7 posted on 02/26/2009 12:18:28 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Let the 2nd American Revolution begin!)
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To: nickcarraway

I do not trust these stories. Anyone in Europe against Islkamification is branded a racist or nazi. We are already being painted as racists and KKK membersalready for saying anything about Obama.


8 posted on 02/26/2009 12:19:47 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: perchprism
What is their pre-occupation with Jews? Never could understand that.

All despots need a scapegoat.

9 posted on 02/26/2009 12:20:13 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: nickcarraway

Not real bright are they. Get rid of the jews just in time for the islamderthals to start hacking some nazi heads off.


10 posted on 02/26/2009 12:20:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: perchprism

The antisemitism is tied into the fact that Jews have a tendency to be wealthy; or at least are over-represented in well paying professions. Simple envy takes off from there.


11 posted on 02/26/2009 12:20:50 PM PST by eclecticEel (Wall Street isn't a charity ... so why are we giving them money?)
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To: nickcarraway; ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; Clintonfatigued; SunkenCiv; jazusamo; Just A Nobody; ...
Maybe they have their nomenclature confused.

The "Fourth Reich" could be what Obama and the 'Rats trying to build in the US!

12 posted on 02/26/2009 12:21:18 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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Who cares? The left is obsessed with Nazis, and in fact, they hardly exist. I have met lots of Socialists and Communists (and Islamists) who want to destroy the country, but haven’t met any Nazis. Where are they all? It is the straw-man they love to attack.


13 posted on 02/26/2009 12:27:06 PM PST by PGR88
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What is their pre-occupation with Jews? Never could understand that.

Neither can I. I recall having a discussion with a hater once and talking about all the things he stood for and then I pointed out that Orthodox Jews supported over 90% of the things he supported. The dumb POS just could not wrap his head around the idea that he had so much in common with people he wanted to hate. These morons have defined their identity by their hatreds and there's not a lot left to do with them but isolate them socially.

14 posted on 02/26/2009 12:31:38 PM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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And as Mark Twain pointed out, when the majority complains that a very small minority is *so* overrepresented in fields involving higher education, fiduciary trust, business skill, etc, such as Law, Banking, Academia, and Finance. *It speaks far more about the majority* than it does the minority.

He called it a “breathtaking admission”.

Read his essay “Concerning the Jews”, then compare it to the screed of Luther, Wagner, or the Muslims.

Twain was a national treasure.


15 posted on 02/26/2009 12:32:08 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: PGR88

A very good point. As the American socialist leftists consolidate their grip on our throat, we are looking for Nazis. Always admirable to do IMO,,,but odd priorities.


16 posted on 02/26/2009 12:34:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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“All despots need a scapegoat”.

Amen. And i always chuckle at how *all* the problems of 600 million arabs, spanning from Pakistan to Morrocco, England south to halfway down to the bottom of Africa are caused by Israel. Whats Israel, 30 miles wide, 150 miles tall? No Oil to speak of, very little water, etc.

No better indictment of Islam exists than the nations it rules, none of which are free or prosperous for anyone, except the rulers.

They hate the Jews because they need someone to blame their own failure and despotism on.


17 posted on 02/26/2009 12:42:05 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: nickcarraway

Never happen today. The vast majority of German men today are wussies. Same goes for the rest of Europe. The men of today have no stomach for any fighting. Europe is a continent of Neville Chamberlains.


18 posted on 02/26/2009 12:51:43 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: perchprism
Goes back forever. IIRC, in the old fairy tales, in the modern versions, whenever a thief or evil merchant is mentioned, in the original, it was a Jew. Jews were the equivalent of trolls in some of the early fairy tales.

Without getting too much into NeoNazi stuff, the basic argument goes like this: Jews get together financially and form cartels, shutting everyone else out.

I'm not saying I agree with this, but in post WWI Germany, the general populous was going through very hard times, while many Jewish merchants were living relatively well. This made them an identifiable target, and there was already a history of religious prejudice.

19 posted on 02/26/2009 1:09:24 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: nickcarraway
Are the neo Nazi's like the KKK threat that groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center say every year is a” growing threat” when in fact it's the same toothless old holdovers from the old klan with a few younger members with their teeth still in their heads.

The SPLC and the NAACP are just justifying their existence by digging up skeletons and rattling the bones villains long since vanquished.

20 posted on 02/26/2009 1:40:55 PM PST by RedMonqey
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