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Former Visalia lawmaker urges California split
SFGate ^ | february 25th

Posted on 02/25/2009 2:40:44 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

A former state legislator is reviving the old debate that two Californias are more easily governed than one.

Conservative Republican Bill Maze is harnessing the ire of San Joaquin Valley farmers and others as he stumps for splitting the 13 coastal counties stretching from Los Angeles to Marin from California's other 45. To that end, he is selling sponsorships in his nonprofit California Farming Industries.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: billmaze; california; liberty; taxes; taxifornia
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Some conservatives are stuck under the shackles of liberalism.

If you are one of them, I truely feel bad for you.

1 posted on 02/25/2009 2:40:44 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Can we do that in NY? I would love to see NYC separated from Upstate...


2 posted on 02/25/2009 2:42:25 PM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I have been calling for a CA split for years.

Northern and Southern would make sense, but Outer and Inner would be better politically.


3 posted on 02/25/2009 2:43:06 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Marysecretary

that would negate Schumer and Gillibrand.


4 posted on 02/25/2009 2:43:27 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Marysecretary

Pennsylvania would benefit from a split as well.

Looking at it at a map, there are like three or five liberal counties, the rest are all conservative.


5 posted on 02/25/2009 2:46:37 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Fairness doctrine = Red Herring. Localism is the real threat)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Two answers:

(1) Forming a state within a state is illegal under the Constitution.

(2) Such a plan in CA just isn't feasible, unless we're looking at a pure East/West split of CA. The logistics isn't there.

6 posted on 02/25/2009 2:47:19 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Libertarian and Constitution Parties should merge into one)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Oh please! Oh please! Oh please! Take the coast, keep it, please! This would be the best thing that has happened to the San Joaquin Valley for many decades.


7 posted on 02/25/2009 2:47:37 PM PST by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Hmmmm....before Obama is through we may have 57 states.


8 posted on 02/25/2009 2:48:49 PM PST by OB1kNOb (O.B.A.M.A. -- One Big A** Mistake America)
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9 posted on 02/25/2009 2:48:59 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Fairness doctrine = Red Herring. Localism is the real threat)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I would love to see Upper Peninsula of MI be it’s own state. Technically, they’re not a part of MI, it’s their own land mass. And plus they’re not being properly represented by Lansing anyway.


10 posted on 02/25/2009 2:49:17 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Libertarian and Constitution Parties should merge into one)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If you are one of them, tell the Census people no one lives there.

Deprive CA of electoral votes.


11 posted on 02/25/2009 2:50:26 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

They had tried unsuccessfully to split it horizontally. It was called the State of Jefferson.


12 posted on 02/25/2009 2:53:18 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

California’s problems begin with the voters.

There’s no fix for stupid.


13 posted on 02/25/2009 2:53:50 PM PST by DB
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To: txnativegop

Yeah...they’re my senators. I would be happy to see them go.


14 posted on 02/25/2009 2:53:53 PM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Retired Greyhound

At least give “inner” part of Northern CA - they need a port/access to the sea.


15 posted on 02/25/2009 2:54:41 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I’m in the coastal county closest to the middle of the map that is red...


16 posted on 02/25/2009 2:54:51 PM PST by DB
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Hmmm... this map should prove helpful in deciding which state to move to when CA collapses under the weight of its government.


17 posted on 02/25/2009 2:55:33 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Repeal the 16th!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
One of your two is correct. The first, that it is unconstitutional is incorrect.

Article 4, Section 3 - New States

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
18 posted on 02/25/2009 2:56:14 PM PST by MissouriConservative (If there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“(1) Forming a state within a state is illegal under the Constitution.”
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Well, not exactly...
...no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.
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...but it still ain’t a gonna happen...


19 posted on 02/25/2009 2:57:55 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Marysecretary
Can we do that in NY? I would love to see NYC separated from Upstate...

They'd have to stop that. Doesn't NYC require something like half of the surface water for the entire state? Seems to me I read that somewhere.

20 posted on 02/25/2009 2:58:20 PM PST by SeeSharp
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