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Bristol Palin Proves It: Abstinence Education Is Unrealistic
Pajamas Media ^ | February 24, 2009 | Katherine Berry

Posted on 02/25/2009 11:35:33 AM PST by AJKauf

When I, a parent of a 17-year-old daughter due to graduate from high school this May, originally read about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy during the presidential campaign, I shared the same sense of indignant outrage expressed by many upon hearing the news. Why on earth is a girl that age having sex, particularly when she was raised by a mother who staunchly supports abstinence-only education? Didn’t she listen?

Yes, I’ll admit my first reaction upon learning of a pregnant teenage girl is to think that it really should be that simple: telling one’s child “don’t have sex until you’re married” should be enough. Never mind the whole virginity pledge thing; explaining the risk of STDs, AIDs and teenage pregnancy should be sufficient rationale. And, just in case it isn’t, then the threat of an angry parent with “a 12-gauge double-aught buckshot” should be enough incentive for teens to “keep their britches on.” And yet, obviously, it isn’t. The Bristol Palins and Jamie Lynn Spears are proof enough that “just say no” doesn’t always sink in....

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bristolpalin; moralabsolutes; palin; pds
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To: AJKauf

Aside from getting her networks mixed up, a pretty good article. Kids are only human.


21 posted on 02/25/2009 11:47:15 AM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: SolidWood

The left, and their “father” (of lies) want there to be no standards -

do what thou will shall be the whole of the law.


22 posted on 02/25/2009 11:47:32 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: AJKauf

Abstinence: Responsible self-control.

Abortion: “Guiltless” irresponsibility.

Abstinence doesn’t work for everyone.
OTOH, abortion kills...every time.


23 posted on 02/25/2009 11:48:25 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Ingtar
If my understanding of the timing is correct, Bristol snuck out for sex while mom was busy having a baby of her own. It is great to teach children to abstain. It is better to help them live up to their pledge by being a responsible parent and not providing situations where they can “slip up.”

Hold on.....are you saying her mother was being an irresponsible parent because she was having a child of her own? One child per married couple? If that is the case I guess you have a point because Bristol never would have been born to begin with.

24 posted on 02/25/2009 11:48:57 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: AJKauf

SEX is preached EVERYWHERE today....it’s saturated into children....sure people got pregnant in the 50’s (and before)....but usually they got married and made a family! Now....the “culture” says...have sex...don’t get married....do what pleases YOU....I still can’t figure out why Bristol and the father have NOT married....there is no excuse, unless they never plan(ned) to.


25 posted on 02/25/2009 11:49:31 AM PST by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: dead
Amen. Telling anyone not to strike someone when they feel provoked to do so, doesn't always work for many, so just stop telling our kids not to hit, kick or bite the other kid and especially don't meet out punishment for same.

Let's all just accept unacceptable behavior instead of teaching our kids not to do it.

Society is just going to behave however the way that they behave, so learn it, love it, live with it.

26 posted on 02/25/2009 11:50:22 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: AJKauf

I’m wondering if anyone can give me a cite where Sarah Palin said she believes in “abstinence only” education. I have heard this said by people attacking her, but never from her. Could this be propaganda?


27 posted on 02/25/2009 11:50:22 AM PST by vharlow
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To: MrB
Since someone fails to live up to a standard, that means the standard is worthless?

The standard is great. I think the point is to give them a backup education in case they don't meet the standard.

28 posted on 02/25/2009 11:50:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat (Sacred cows make the best hamburger.)
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To: AJKauf

“.....I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don’t have a problem with that. That doesn’t scare me, so it’s something I would support also.”

Sarah Palin, 2006 radio interview

I’m really disappointed to see Pajamas Media pushing this tired old slur.......


29 posted on 02/25/2009 11:50:42 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: AJKauf
Dad + 12 guage = Abstinence Education (for him)

"Which antler shall I hang your scrotum from, son?"

Mom + video of live child birth = Abstinence Education (for her)

"Episiotomies are fun, dear!"

30 posted on 02/25/2009 11:50:50 AM PST by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Hypocrisy does NOT mean what you imply it means.

Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in a standard that you really don’t believe in.

It does NOT mean not living up to that standard (and therefore, the standard need not be valued).


31 posted on 02/25/2009 11:51:05 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: AJKauf

It was easy to teach no sex before marraige when most people got married at 15-20 years old. Now we expect them to go to college, make a career and never have sex until they are near 30.

While I think teen sex is entirely too young, I think it’s silly to not explain the concept of contraceptive. Not that it will always work, but by God let them know that is an option. While explaining why it’s better to wait, let them know that getting pregnant is beyond irresponsible. As I said, not that it always works.

Just my opinion and reflection on my years in high school. Maybe I just went to a ‘bad’ high school.

And also as a terrified mother of three girls, two of which are teens.


32 posted on 02/25/2009 11:51:09 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Exactly. We should give them a bottle of tequila, the car keys, oh, and a crash helmet so that they're "safe." ;-)

Playing devil's advocate here (and I know you're being sarcastic above), isn't abstinence education the equivalent of telling a kid "Don't drive drunk" while contraception education is the equivalent of giving the kids seat belts and crash helmets?

33 posted on 02/25/2009 11:51:22 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Yeah, I’m sure that they didn’t know about birth control. That information isn’t available ANYWHERE...


34 posted on 02/25/2009 11:52:14 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Troll_House_Cookies
She promoted abstinence because it is right. She was and is not against educating about contraceptives. The claim that she is pushing exclusively abstinence and is therefore a hypocrite is false.

Many of us here a Christians and we promote the good message and it's teachings. But we are still sinning every day. Falling short of an ideal (and in this case it was her daughter, not herself), doesn't make neither her wrong, nor the ideal wrong.

35 posted on 02/25/2009 11:52:17 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: Ingtar

WTH? So it’s Sarah Palin’s fault for having a baby?

I’m sorry to tell you, you are not going to be with your 17 year old 24 hours a day.


36 posted on 02/25/2009 11:53:02 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: MrB
Hypocrisy does NOT mean what you imply it means.

Seeing as I never offered any implication of a definition, your comment doesn't apply to my post.

It does NOT mean not living up to that standard (and therefore, the standard need not be valued).

Never said it did.

Please read before posting. If you don't understand a post, ask.

37 posted on 02/25/2009 11:53:45 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist)
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To: goodnesswins

Have you even seen her interview? They will finish school and marry. Their timeschedule is not our business.


38 posted on 02/25/2009 11:54:03 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: AJKauf

One cannnot teach abstinence the way one teaches algebra. On the other hand, kids fail to learn the lessons of abstinance for the same reason they fail to learn algebra: too many other kids think it is impossible, or even unnatural—weird, in other words.

Fifty years ago, BTP, most kids felt the same as they do today, and boys tried to do pretty much what they do to day, but for boys the idea was that if one has sex with anyone except a whole, one ought to think —at least—of marriage. Most girls also thought of marriage, but there was also the fear of pregnancy, and the shame attendent to being an unwed mother. There was also the shame attendent to boys of shame at getting a girl pregnant when marriage was no practical option.


39 posted on 02/25/2009 11:54:06 AM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: AJKauf

I went to a Catholic boys High School and learned the greatest lesson about pre-marital sex imaginable — all the priest told us was the approximate cost to raise a child to the age of eighteen.


40 posted on 02/25/2009 11:54:11 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Individual freedom is measurable ... If taxes take all you earn, you are a slave.)
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